Anyone use this method?

[Flanex]

I was pinning this morning & a tiny drop of oil came out so I googled how to prevent it & this came up.I can't believe I never heard of this before.I have used my thumb & forefinger to "spread" the skin apart while pinning a quad & that's very effective for reducing pain & just makes for a smoother pin.

Z-track injection

http://www.nursingcenter.com/upload/static/592775/Take5_Ztrack.pdf

 

[Dorin76]

This is common in medical industry, in particular for Intramuscular injections!


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[Flanex]

This is common in medical industry, in particular for Intramuscular injections!


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Thanks Dorin.I figured you would know about it.

 

[littlefrank]

Most people just use their whole hand and pull the skin tight in one direction and it does the same thing.

 

[Flanex]

This part kinda puzzles me -

"Never massage a Z-track injection site. This may cause
irritation or force the drug into subcutaneous tissue."

 

[Flanex]

I only use z-track on my VG injections and massaged with no issues. I barely even bother with the massage now TBH. I don't do any spreading for pecs or delts. I do sometimes, maybe 1/10 times, get a very slight bit of leakage on the delt. We're talking like 1-3 units so very minor. I always apply pressure but I've never had it continue to leak.

Yeah I did VG today & it rarely ever happens.I know the amount is miniscule but I still freak out a little cause "that's my damn gear leaking out!"lol

I wish I could work up the courage to pin my pecs

 

[Dorin76]

This part kinda puzzles me -

"Never massage a Z-track injection site. This may cause
irritation or force the drug into subcutaneous tissue."

Well most often a Z Track method to inject is used for antiniotics. If you force those into subcutaneous tissue, there will be irritation! I do not think is a problem so much with oil base. If you get deep into muscle, getting into sub cut tissue should not be a problem!!


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[Flanex]

Well most often a Z Track method to inject is used for antiniotics. If you force those into subcutaneous tissue, there will be irritation! I do not think is a problem so much with oil base. If you get deep into muscle, getting into sub cut tissue should not be a problem!!


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Thanks for the clarification bro

 

[bodean30]

I don't usually use the z-track method, but have in the past and it works well.
Typically I just leave the pin in the muscle for about 20 seconds after the last drop is injected and let the oil disperse a little. Usually works great and zero oil leakage.

Some people also leave a tiny air bubble in the syringe so you can push every last drop out and also prevent leakage. That method just doesn't sit right with me so I don't do it.

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[Flanex]

I don't usually use the z-track method, but have in the past and it works well.
Typically I just leave the pin in the muscle for about 20 seconds after the last drop is injected and let the oil disperse a little. Usually works great and zero oil leakage.

Some people also leave a tiny air bubble in the syringe so you can push every last drop out and also prevent leakage. That method just doesn't sit right with me so I don't do it.

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Yeah I don't like the idea of injecting air into me either,even if I know it's not going into a vein.I left it in for about 10sec like I always do but still had a little leakage.I'm going to try the z-track next time just out of curiosity.

 

[44YOGearHead]

I don't usually use the z-track method, but have in the past and it works well.
Typically I just leave the pin in the muscle for about 20 seconds after the last drop is injected and let the oil disperse a little. Usually works great and zero oil leakage.

Some people also leave a tiny air bubble in the syringe so you can push every last drop out and also prevent leakage. That method just doesn't sit right with me so I don't do it.

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I do both of these, I'll leave the pin in for about 20-30 seconds as well as utilize a tiny air bubble. Takes roughly 3cc of air to be a problem, however I don't do it all the time as I assume the air will eventually find the other bubbles and I don't want to end up even more weetodded than I am at present.

 

[SC1]

Yeah I don't like the idea of injecting air into me either,even if I know it's not going into a vein.I left it in for about 10sec like I always do but still had a little leakage.I'm going to try the z-track next time just out of curiosity.

As long as you dont inject air into a vein its fine. Certain med such as lovenox (blood thinner) come from the factory with a tiny air bubble in it to lock the medicine in, it is a subq injection not IM but its the same conept. If you wanted to try it, it wont hurt u.

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[Flanex]

As long as you dont inject air into a vein its fine. Certain med such as lovenox (blood thinner) come from the factory with a tiny air bubble in it to lock the medicine in, it is a subq injection not IM but its the same conept. If you wanted to try it, it wont hurt u.

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I know it won't hurt me.It's just something that's beaten into your head your whole life "air + needles = bad".

 

[SC1]

I can understand that.

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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

tried it yes, use it no