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Anyone Have Tren No Ester AND Pharmaceutical Deca?

But I still pay extra premium for amps of pharma test. those raws have a much smaller chance of fluctuating or being cut.

Assuming of course you're getting a REAL product...and not a fake
I've seen a lot of fake Bayer amps
 
Well its a variation of pharma I suppose. Technically a ugl that has more leeway.... but balkan is a good option. I have posted plenty of tests supporting their product. It's in the roids24 section.

Tren no ester, phurious has it.

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Pharma companies have the resources to test their raws so there is more consistency. Not talking about lab max either. Given what they charge for the products, they at the very least mass spec the raws.
That is the difference. At the end of the day is it worth paying such a premium for the consistency?

I rather deal with a reputable ugl lab.

Now pharma GH is a different story.
 
Pharma companies have the resources to test their raws so there is more consistency. Not talking about lab max either. Given what they charge for the products, they at the very least mass spec the raws.
That is the difference. At the end of the day is it worth paying such a premium for the consistency?

I rather deal with a reputable ugl lab.

Now pharma GH is a different story.

Someone who gets it! lol.

And on a side note, when you bulk buy test like I do, it's a few dollars difference between pharma and ugl
 
That's what you want? Mass spec? Lol there are tons of ugl that do tgat. Doesn't mean much.


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That's what you want? Mass spec? Lol there are tons of ugl that do tgat. Doesn't mean much.


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sorry man, I like most of your posts but I'm just going to have to disagree with you on that. Especially on domestic UGL's. I talked to one of our domestic sponsors on here for a bit and he did say he sent out his raws for mass spec. But he also admitted to doing it only once years ago. So yeah, anything domestic is at the mercy of their supplier.

UG labs that you represent on the other hand, I would have a little more faith in. Mainly because in their country it's much more obtainable and cost effective to do so.
 
sorry man, I like most of your posts but I'm just going to have to disagree with you on that. Especially on domestic UGL's. I talked to one of our domestic sponsors on here for a bit and he did say he sent out his raws for mass spec. But he also admitted to doing it only once years ago. So yeah, anything domestic is at the mercy of their supplier.

UG labs that you represent on the other hand, I would have a little more faith in. Mainly because in their country it's much more obtainable and cost effective to do so.
Thats what I'm saying. Obviously not all ugls will be able to. Domestics generally arnt even in the picture. But youl find a few like the r24 brands. And there are others too just gotta look for them. Pharmacom is another big one.

Honestly what you buy or where you buy from is zero concern to me. Lol. Doesn't matter to me who disagrees or agrees. Hopefully you find what your lookin for though.

Weather it's pharma or not usually makes no difference to people. Watch your bloods and make sure your hormones are in line. That's what matters. The other stuff is irrelevant.

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Let me just throw some info in here. My uncle was a Ph.D chemist in the brain pool for a big usa pharm called BTG. They made 200mg/ml Delastyrl...test E. When he worked there from 1985 to 1995 the powders,or raws were originally made here in the usa, then latter outsourced to India. They did not Mass Spec any batches at all, and took the mass spec results provided to them from India.
Also keep in mind that EQ,TREN and Winstrol were all developed for animals. Big pharm deca raw has never been made in the usa, and as far as I know only test cyp has ever been made here. As am matter of fact I do not think anyone in the usa makes asprin raws either. A good ugl lab will be just as good or better than big pharm because they develop a tight relationship and trust with their provider.

Now the raws from China-There are some crappy ones who sell 75% pure. There are also some good ones that sell 98%plus purity. My uncle has mass spec'ed , many raws, and finds that about three majors produce good stuff. Also when drb first had some phurious sus300 my uncle mass spec'ed it at 316mg/ml.
Hope this info helps.
 
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