hey bro... let me touch on this coming from someone who knows what it REALLY takes to get abs... the main thing is a dedication to your diet... that has to be extremely dialed in... the saying "abs are made in the kitchen" although sounds stupid is in fact a reality... that's the hardest part and where it starts... then the cardio... its not who can do 1000 crunches etc... its cardio... staying dry, staying lean etc... you have to have a leaner midsection and the way to do that is through cardio and not just running as far as you can... mixing different methods and types, steady state, HIIT, dfferent types, methods and modes.... one reason i love the elliptical is how you use your entire body, then you move to the stairclimber, then you hit sprints, internvals, jump ropes etc... this is how you get them.. i had abs long before i used ANYTHING whatsoever... THEN comes the enhancements... the vascularity there that is unreal, the extra hardening, the pronounced look etc... winstrol and masteron are the best you will find for the hardening and vascularity... primo will be excellent for the lean muscle growth in that area and eq along with sarms s4 for vascularity and more lean muscle... i use GW and SR9009 for the extra fat loss in these areas and proviron is great for an aide to all of these... these are the things to use AFTER you get to the highest level you can on your own... you need to stay dry, utilized the sauna and sweat a lot as well...
