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[ScottT]

Stats: 36, 5"10 180lbs lean. Been lifting hard since I was 20. Diet is always on key and cardio 4-5 times a week for 30 min.

This is going to be my 4th cycle and I've found out from my last cycle that I'm a little gyno prone. Last cycle was 500mg/wk of test, 500mg/wk of mast and 60mg of anavar the last six weeks of a 12 week cycle.

This cycle I think I'm going to run 600mg of test, and 600mg-800mg of Primo and maybe some anavar at the end but doubt I will. My questions are with that kind of cycle what should I run the Arimdex dose at? My PCT will be Novaldex and Clomid(Suggestions on dosages and when to take them). My other concern that I've been researching: Is there a rebound effect I could have with the gyno after my cycle from taking Arimdex? How could I keep that from happening. Do I continue with something PCT to help that? I'm just trying to make sure I got everything in line before I jump on this next cycle.

 

[Biglexi]

Stats: 36, 5"10 180lbs lean. Been lifting hard since I was 20. Diet is always on key and cardio 4-5 times a week for 30 min.

This is going to be my 4th cycle and I've found out from my last cycle that I'm a little gyno prone. Last cycle was 500mg/wk of test, 500mg/wk of mast and 60mg of anavar the last six weeks of a 12 week cycle.

This cycle I think I'm going to run 600mg of test, and 600mg-800mg of Primo and maybe some anavar at the end but doubt I will. My questions are with that kind of cycle what should I run the Arimdex dose at? My PCT will be Novaldex and Clomid(Suggestions on dosages and when to take them). My other concern that I've been researching: Is there a rebound effect I could have with the gyno after my cycle from taking Arimdex? How could I keep that from happening. Do I continue with something PCT to help that? I'm just trying to make sure I got everything in line before I jump on this next cycle.

Can u get aromasin instead ??? There would be no rebound and much better on ur lipids.


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[ScottT]

Yes I can get that too. What would the dosage be and would I run it past the cycle into the PCT?

 

[9th Wonder]

Run aromasin at 12.5 mg EOD and asses from there.

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Good starting dose for Aromasin is 12.5mg EOD. It will be different for everyone based on individual sensitivity so it is highly recommended to get bloodwork to dial in your dose.

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[ScottT]

What do you guys think of the PCT. there's so many opinions out there.

 

[RickRock]

What exactly is your goals from the cycle?


Pct should look like this

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[ScottT]

I'd like to gain some mass but lean down as well. Im looking for clean gains really. I'm not looking to get bodybuilder huge cause I'd like to keep my athleticism. I still do a lot of sports. I'm currently 180lbs and like to be around 210lbs cut down. I have a nutritionist and looking to get on stage if I can get ready enough for it. I won't go onstage until I'm totally ready. Looking to get on with Men's Physique or classic physique. My trainer said I'm real close now just need some edge and some Tweeks here and there.

 

[ScottT]

If it takes me a few cycles to get there that's fine. I don't want to overload anything.

 

[RickRock]

Well, for starters if you are gyno prone, there's no way you should be running test that high. That's just asking for trouble. You should definitely be using Aromasin instead of arimadex as well. I'd forget about Anavar. It's weak as fuck and won't offer much at all. Use Winstrol as a finisher instead

For your goals, I'd recommend doing a cycle with a mix of AAS and sarms. It fits perfectly for what you are trying to accomplish

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1-16 Test C 400mg per week
1-16 primobolan 800mg per week
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-16 GW 20mg per day dosed 30 minutes preworkout
5-16 S4 50mg per day split 25mg am and 25mg 4-6 hours later
1-16 SR9009 30mg per day 5mg dosed 6 times per day
1-16 RAD140 20mg per day dosed in the am

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[ScottT]

Ok great advice. Thanks man. I will def tone down the test. I know I can look all those sarms up but can you give me in short what all those other things will help and what they will do for my cycle. I've never introduced any of those things and if you've taken them I'd like to hear how it benifits. I may not be able to afford all of the extras. But if you had to choose from a few which ones would you run along side the cycle. I still have a good month before I jump on this next cycle so I got time to make decisions. Thanks again for the advice.

 

[RickRock]

Ok great advice. Thanks man. I will def tone down the test. I know I can look all those sarms up but can you give me in short what all those other things will help and what they will do for my cycle. I've never introduced any of those things and if you've taken them I'd like to hear how it benifits. I may not be able to afford all of the extras. But if you had to choose from a few which ones would you run along side the cycle. I still have a good month before I jump on this next cycle so I got time to make decisions. Thanks again for the advice.

You can find very extensive information on each of those sarms on the isarms YouTube channel. There are videos on each one of them.

 

[ScottT]

Ok thanks. One more thing then I'll leave you alone. Lol. This is my first cycle with Primo and I've heard it can be a bit painful. My Primo is 200mg/ml. If I were to take 800/wk how would you recommend splitting that up. I can handle the pain I just don't want it to interfere with my training. I've had some really painful shots when I was military. I'll take the test 2x a week but how should I include the primo in? Should I take 4 pins/4 time a week at 200mg, or spread them differently. Also if I take the Primo on the same day as the test should I use two different pins in the same glute or one in the glute and one somewhere else?

 

[ScottT]

Quick question about the PCT. After my 4 week pct of what you said,!would you continue with something else in between cycles after PCT? Or just come off completely after 4 week pct and let myself get back to normal. What I have been doing is coming off Everything completley after PCT and letting my natural testosterone come back by itself.

 

[Biglexi]

Quick question about the PCT. After my 4 week pct of what you said,!would you continue with something else in between cycles after PCT? Or just come off completely after 4 week pct and let myself get back to normal. What I have been doing is coming off Everything completley after PCT and letting my natural testosterone come back by itself.

That's the proper protocol. Get off everything no bridging no cruising nothing. Be off for 3-4 months and do another cycle if u wish. Let ur receptors resensitize again. U will not be sorry. I did that and my test crushed to 50. That sucked was off for 5 months and now I'm flying 20 pounds heavier using less gear then before. Responded so much better this time around. But it's not for weak of hearts. Having ur test so low it's not fun at all!!


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[RickRock]

Ok thanks. One more thing then I'll leave you alone. Lol. This is my first cycle with Primo and I've heard it can be a bit painful. My Primo is 200mg/ml. If I were to take 800/wk how would you recommend splitting that up. I can handle the pain I just don't want it to interfere with my training. I've had some really painful shots when I was military. I'll take the test 2x a week but how should I include the primo in? Should I take 4 pins/4 time a week at 200mg, or spread them differently. Also if I take the Primo on the same day as the test should I use two different pins in the same glute or one in the glute and one somewhere else?

Primo only needs to be split twice per week, but it's up to you if you'd like to split it more than that. I personally would opt to do as little injections as I had to

 

[RickRock]

Quick question about the PCT. After my 4 week pct of what you said,!would you continue with something else in between cycles after PCT? Or just come off completely after 4 week pct and let myself get back to normal. What I have been doing is coming off Everything completley after PCT and letting my natural testosterone come back by itself.

I high yo recommend utilizing a sarms stack in between cycles. After your pct is complete, you can start a sarms stack. What to run depends on what goal you are trying to accomplish at the time. That's honestly the best way to utilize that time between cycles to keep making progress

 

[ScottT]

Ok I thought I could get Aromasin but I can only get Arimadex. I don't want to rebound after my cycle since I'm gyno prone so should I continue the dex after my last shot? What does and how long after my cycle.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ok I thought I could get Aromasin but I can only get Arimadex. I don't want to rebound after my cycle since I'm gyno prone so should I continue the dex after my last shot? What does and how long after my cycle.

okay bro... several things to answer for you...

1. arimidex will not prevent rebound... you need aromasin and you can EASILY get aromasin... here is the link... https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

2. primo can be painful but anymore, not so much... most sources that have it at 200 mg/ml have the method down... generally all of my primo is butter smooth... split it twice a week... at 200 mg/ml it would be 2 cc's each time you inject... you dont have to use two different pins either.. you can take them all at once...

3. when you complete pct, you can run a sarms bridge... thats what you would want to do in between cycles.. this is the best way to not only maintain your gains but clean them up and add to them... you will not hurt yourself whatsoever but benefit highly.... here are the links to get everything you need for your bridge followed by the layout... this is the sarms super stack...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=144&search=super+stack

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini



1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day