26yo. Freaking out over bloodwork

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So some background: Starting in July/August this year I ran a 6 week PH cycle of DMZ and 11x (this is the first PH cycle I've ran after several years or so). I then ran Nolva at 40/40/20/20. A few weeks after the Nolva I ran an OTC estrogen blocker called Eradicate by BlackStone Labs, which contains an AI known as Arimistane. I ran this for about 4 weeks.

The only bloodwork I had prior to this cycle was in April 2015. My results were as follows:

Total Test: 679 ng/dL
Free Test: 26.4 pg/mL
Estradiol: 18.2 pg/mL

I went to the doctor in the beginning of October to get some bloodwork done and this doctor was being a total bitch and wouldn't let me get a full panel done, only testosterone (she said "I don't understand why you want to get your estrogen levels checked"). Anywho, the results showed Total Testosterone at 803 ng/dL and free test at 23.4 pg/mL. Keep in mind I was still on Eradicate at this point, which is why I think my total testosterone was higher than my previous blood work results.

Anyway, last week I went to an actual lab to get some bloodwork because I realized I hate dealing with incompetent doctors. I just got my results today:

Total Test: 529 ng/dL
Free test: 78.1 (range between 35- 155 pg/mL)
Estradiol: 40 pg/mL (men should have levels equal or less than 29 pg/mL)

As you can see my total and free test dropped significantly, and my estradiol is high. It's been a couple months since I've ended the Nolva and I've been off Eradicate for a couple of weeks as well.

I'm freaking out here. Should I do another PCT? Do nothing and wait another month and get some more bloodwork? I'm thinking the least I could do is get on some DIM to hopefully lower my estrogen levels a little.

Thanks in advance for whatever advice you can give me

P.S I know I'll get flamed for taking a PH instead of injectibles, as well as taking a Blackstone Labs product. But please help me out lol

 

[RickRock]

Bro, I think you are overthinking this a bit. I know it dropped 150 points, but your numbers are still good. Everything is right in the middle of normal range. Also keep in mind that your test levels do fluctuate quite a bit. It's entirely possible you could retest and show numbers higher. There's a lot of factors that go into when your levels are at their highest and lowest throughout the day.

If it worries you, you can always try another pct. that wouldn't hurt. Get yourself some Clomid and Nolva from sarmsx and run that for 4 weeks and retest

 

[gomad75]

Pffft, my levels have dropped 200+ points and then back up. Too man variables! As long as you're not low, you're fine.

My doctor was the same in regards to give me a hard time about my blood panel. She also said she didn't understand why I needed my estrogen checked. I couldn't believe a doctor (who went to school..presumably!) doesn't realize how important hormonal balance is in people.

Since then I've learned to get my own blood work privately (out of pocket $) and I've learned to decipher it. I'm pretty sure there's a post on this site on how to read bloodwork for yourself...

 

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Thanks for the responses guys. I understand fluctuating hormones, but is it really normal for total and free test to go down that much after a few short weeks?

I'll probably just get some Nolva and Clomid for a 2ndary PCT, just to be extra safe. Thank you guys again!

 

[SdBronco]

Your total test went down but your free test went up a lot. These are normal fluctuations I think you will be fine the way you are. What was your LH and FSH? I'm sure those are within range to which would be a stronger indicator you have nothing to worry about.

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[Gymjunkie38]

Your toatl test was higher with lower than normal estrogen. Then it normalized ( ARIMISTANE HAVE SOMETHING TOONDO WITH THAT) just thinking out here bro Id say chill out your fine

 

[RickRock]

Thanks for the responses guys. I understand fluctuating hormones, but is it really normal for total and free test to go down that much after a few short weeks?

I'll probably just get some Nolva and Clomid for a 2ndary PCT, just to be extra safe. Thank you guys again!

Dude you can go down 100 points within a day depending on what time you are testing, blood sugar levels, etc. There's a ton of things that affect it

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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Thanks for the responses guys. I understand fluctuating hormones, but is it really normal for total and free test to go down that much after a few short weeks?

I'll probably just get some Nolva and Clomid for a 2ndary PCT, just to be extra safe. Thank you guys again!

yes it is, can fluctuate for many reasons throughout the day, and day to day ... wait 3 months and re test

 

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Your total test went down but your free test went up a lot. These are normal fluctuations I think you will be fine the way you are. What was your LH and FSH? I'm sure those are within range to which would be a stronger indicator you have nothing to worry about.

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Sorry I forgot to include ranges... when my free test was 26.4, the high end range was 26.5.

When my free test was 78.1, I went to another lab that uses a different measuring system, with the range being from 35-155. So my free test went down a lot.

All my bloodwork has been done in the morning while fasting.

That being said, I already ordered a "secondary" PCT of nolva and clomid to give me a piece of mind lol

 

[rockmfhudd]

stay away from PH's and get with the real shit on here and who knows what you even took from blackstone its shit

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Thanks for the responses guys. I understand fluctuating hormones, but is it really normal for total and free test to go down that much after a few short weeks?

I'll probably just get some Nolva and Clomid for a 2ndary PCT, just to be extra safe. Thank you guys again!

bro your free test went way up not down. at least according to what you typed. is that a typo?? EDIT: ok i didnt see your other post until now. but either way its fine
and your estradiol doesnt have to be below 29. 25-35 is normal but everyone is different. some are ok going higher some need to be 20ish

 

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I'm not sure what I should do guys.

So someone in this thread mentioned running a 2nd PCT of nolva/clomid.

A guy on T-nation said that I should NOT run any SERMs, but to run arimidex for a week in EOD doses. This makes sense to me since my estradiol levels are on the high side. What do you guys think?

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I'm not sure what I should do guys.

So someone in this thread mentioned running a 2nd PCT of nolva/clomid.

A guy on T-nation said that I should NOT run any SERMs, but to run arimidex for a week in EOD doses. This makes sense to me since my estradiol levels are on the high side. What do you guys think?

personally i would stop using all compounds wait 3 months and re test to see if my body normalizes