21 year old is starting test

[rockmfhudd]

So I know most of yall remember me talking about my little muscle head that is 21 years old. Well I have talked him out of roids up until this point, he has some gear head he works with that is getting him some cyp, he says he needs it and he will just not listen to reason, as usual he knows everyfuckingthing like most, I did encourage him last year to sign up on the forum and learn but he has yet to join. I have stressed the importance of waiting because his body is still producing more test than is in 10 vials of test. So I guess my dilemma is this, do I accept it and teach him the right ways to pin and pct etc. or do I just leave it alone and let him learn from his own mistakes like he has pretty much done all his life. I'm almost at a loss here, I thought I was winning the battle. He is very light about 5'6 155 7% bf he has competed before but that was a few years ago.

 

[Montgomery]

I'm sure you are VERY frustrated, you can't be around him 24/7 and knock his hand away from the pin.
I would say if all avenues have failed, try your damnedest to make sure he is guided CORRECTLY through the process!!

But I would still beat his ass first......

 

[Jake]

My brothers and I were so respectful of our dad that we listened to everything he said. Even now we still do. He had a way of explaining things that covered all of the details as to why we had to wait. He made sense and we knew he loved us dearly. That combo made us listen. I would not show my kid how to properly inject heroin, just because he is determined. I would speak to him from the heart, and clearly state your opin with facts. Then have no part of it. In his 30's he may want to blame you for needing trt.
Remember the bring the horse to water saying? That is all you can do.

 

[rockmfhudd]

ya but when I say he is a muscle head I mean he is a muscle head. I think maybe too many damn concussions playing football. he doesn't live with me so I don't have control over him. and I did explain to him about the long lasting effects. he just wont listen and it stems from his childhood with me and his mom split up if I said something not to do she would let him do it. so ive been fighting an uphill battle. he is a major pothead now because she allowed him to do that shit at her house, and he moved out from my house bc I wouldn't let him do it. im afraid he is going to be a victim of his own small brained desires. so we shall see what his decision will be its just so frustrating.

 

[Montgomery]

Sounds like a candidate for the helmut Brother..... maybe you can get him a nice yellow to match the bus

 

[rockmfhudd]

ya no doubt I guarantee he can barely make change from a 20 lol and that aint no shit. he just goes along with this dude that is selling it to him, he knows I am pinning so maybe that is his reasoning but you know all I can do like most of his life is wait around and say I told you so fucking dimwit. but he has to walk the easy path that has been set up for him instead of being a damn leader and beating down his own path

 

[rockmfhudd]

Well let your dad instincts lead. At least then it comes from a good place.

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well last year he had a bottle of tren and I talked him out of that, that's when I told him to join the forum here and learn all he can then in a few years decide if its for him or not. hey who knows if he has to pin himself he prolly wont do it lol and I get 2 bottles of cyp for free hahaha

 

[rockmfhudd]

Your sick bastard. I love it lol

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ill tell you how dense he is. his step mom went into the store where he worked for Christmas a couple of years ago and he asked her for her ID when he rang her out to make sure her name was the same on the Credit card bwahahaha even his mgr asked him wtf are you doiong its ur mom. hahahaha durdurdur

 

[JM750]

My brothers and I were so respectful of our dad that we listened to everything he said. Even now we still do. He had a way of explaining things that covered all of the details as to why we had to wait. He made sense and we knew he loved us dearly. That combo made us listen. I would not show my kid how to properly inject heroin, just because he is determined. I would speak to him from the heart, and clearly state your opin with facts. Then have no part of it. In his 30's he may want to blame you for needing trt.
Remember the bring the horse to water saying? That is all you can do.

you guys have a very special family bond. And it shows right on this board.

 

[rockmfhudd]

you guys have a very special family bond. And it shows right on this board.

ya and I don't know if it was just a different time when we were raised and obvi drb is old school like most of our parents on here. but it is almost like we are fighting against everything, xbox, school systems, friends, coaches etc there is so much lack of respect for parents these days. Mainly because men in general on TV are seen as dumb asses starting with homer simpson and on and on. I think we fight a losing battle for these damn kids. I have 4 boys and it has progressively gotten worse with each one. Thank God I only have 1 left in the house

 

[rockmfhudd]

Wtf yup that's your son lol

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lol I mean seriously you cant make that kinda shit up

 

[rockmfhudd]

I saw a one legged woman begging for money in Austin. Instead of me giving her money, I said go apply at IHOP

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lmmfao sick bastard

 

[RickRock]

So I know most of yall remember me talking about my little muscle head that is 21 years old. Well I have talked him out of roids up until this point, he has some gear head he works with that is getting him some cyp, he says he needs it and he will just not listen to reason, as usual he knows everyfuckingthing like most, I did encourage him last year to sign up on the forum and learn but he has yet to join. I have stressed the importance of waiting because his body is still producing more test than is in 10 vials of test. So I guess my dilemma is this, do I accept it and teach him the right ways to pin and pct etc. or do I just leave it alone and let him learn from his own mistakes like he has pretty much done all his life. I'm almost at a loss here, I thought I was winning the battle. He is very light about 5'6 155 7% bf he has competed before but that was a few years ago.

I would stand my ground on the issue no matter how determined he may be. Keep explaining the dangers he could face, and the fact that his endocrine system is still developing. Also his brain development is affected by his hormone levels at that age. There's a lot of things he may not understand completely.

I have a 21 year old son myself, and there's no way I would let it happen if I had anything to do with it. Just because he doesn't want to listen, doesn't mean he won't eventually in time. Keep standing your ground and doing what you can to educate him. That's all you can do brother. I would never endorse something I didn't agree with, especially when it comes to your own family....your own blood and offspring


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[JackSteel]

I saw a one legged woman begging for money in Austin. Instead of me giving her money, I said go apply at IHOP

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Bro I gave her $20 and then later found out she was a fairly successful prostitute for the weirdos who like amputees.

 

[Jake]

ya but when I say he is a muscle head I mean he is a muscle head. I think maybe too many damn concussions playing football. he doesn't live with me so I don't have control over him. and I did explain to him about the long lasting effects. he just wont listen and it stems from his childhood with me and his mom split up if I said something not to do she would let him do it. so ive been fighting an uphill battle. he is a major pothead now because she allowed him to do that shit at her house, and he moved out from my house bc I wouldn't let him do it. im afraid he is going to be a victim of his own small brained desires. so we shall see what his decision will be its just so frustrating.

Once they become grown men you can't keep telling them how to live. Sad as it may be you have to watch them make one mistake after the other. I would feel worse if I were schooling him on something that you don't feel right about.
I struggled with my daughter wanting to do sarms. I explained everything to her, then gave her my opinion, then left the decision up to her. She is an adult and will do whatever she wants. At least she knows what my opinion is. After that I just let go and say "let thy will be done" I am not going to try and live her life and mine too.
So far she loves her sarms, and is making progress.

 

[rockmfhudd]

I was pretty stubborn 21 yr old, actually I've always been and still kinda am a stubborn know it all lol. Would your son even listen to you on pinning techniques and dosages? We can only interpret your full situation so much, but like others I would try to stand my ground longer. I'd be torn whether I'd teach him the correct techniques as it may send the message you endorse it, but then I would worry about him and pct, ancillaries etc. Good luck with this man, it's a tough one.

I know i am torn up about teaching him the right way or letting him learn on his own. I dis stress to him about everythimg i have learned from u guys but its not sinking in. Yet i will continue to stress pct and protection and i have told him the stories from the youngins on this board. Maybe he will reflect on some of the things we talked about. I appreciate yalls input and let u know how it goes

 

[TX TERROR]

Well here is my take on it. He's an adult. A young adult but he is gonna make his decision none the less based on what he thinks is right and I'm sure he is taking what you say into consideration.

He's just doing test? Look if he's gonna do it anyway and if it was my son I'd like to be there with him to make sure he does it right rather than just shut him down. You shut him down and he will again just do it anyway and rather than doing it under your guidance and assistance he will rely on his stupid friend.

He's 21, it's young but it's not the end of the world. You find so much drama about how people that age are just going to destroy themselves on AAS. That's simply not true lol. If used responsibly he will be fine. They key is responsible and sensible use. There is no set age with recommended use. You can't do that because everyone's body is different. There needs to be a set mindset for use because the immaturity is what causes the issue.

You let him go on his own he will get reckless and that's where the danger lies.



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[Bio-Tech]

People are going to do what they are going to do. Guide him or somebody else will.

 

[JackSteel]

In reality this actually happened. And she was pretty

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Same here. Tall thin blonde albeit kinda dirty?? lol and yeah she really is a hooker. Haven't seen her in a few years though.

 

[rockmfhudd]

Well here is my take on it. He's an adult. A young adult but he is gonna make his decision none the less based on what he thinks is right and I'm sure he is taking what you say into consideration.

He's just doing test? Look if he's gonna do it anyway and if it was my son I'd like to be there with him to make sure he does it right rather than just shut him down. You shut him down and he will again just do it anyway and rather than doing it under your guidance and assistance he will rely on his stupid friend.

He's 21, it's young but it's not the end of the world. You find so much drama about how people that age are just going to destroy themselves on AAS. That's simply not true lol. If used responsibly he will be fine. They key is responsible and sensible use. There is no set age with recommended use. You can't do that because everyone's body is different. There needs to be a set mindset for use because the immaturity is what causes the issue.

You let him go on his own he will get reckless and that's where the danger lies.



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ya I guess TX but I know his ass will half ass it and not pct he is just that kinda kid that will say aint shit gonna happen like that he is very immature he thinks its going to help him keep a hard on!! swear to God his words, I said I got some liquid via for you for that. If he insists on doing it, I guess I will make sure he knows how to "properly" stay sanitary atleast and encourage him to have a pct on hand before starting but im not sure that will help he is just one of those guys that's on his own timeline always late and always rushing and its always something or someone elses fault. and then when shit goes south he don't wanna talk about it.
It was the same with high school football he could have went to college to play for a small school but wouldn't even strive for a B average and I told his ass for 6 years man no college is coming to give you a suitcase full of money for a C to D average, they would be better off throwing it off the bridge. so he barely graduated and not 1 fuckin college called him for film or to talk to him. the ones he contacted wanted him to use my GI Bill, and I said hell to tha naw you aint getting my shit, there is a recruiter downtown you can go get your own GI Bill.