Blood work

[BigBusiness]

Ok so this my blood work 3 weeks after pct. Not real happy about my test levels considering I started taking provi 2 weeks ago because i just feel blah. I'm still running mk-677 and love it. I'm wanting some honest opinions on whether or not to start cruising or not. My test levels keep falling more and more after every cycle

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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I've noticed as I have aged that recovery and PCT takes longer for natural test to return to optimal levels. You may just be taking longer to recover after your cycles, I personally never do less than 6-8 weeks PCT. I see both LH and FSH are within range so thats all online up and running. How many blood works have you done post cycle and how long has it been since your cycle and how long were you on cycle ?

 

[Jake]

I think that your level is really is not so bad. Also I don't see an estradiol, so I am wondering if that could be high. You could go for another two weeks of 50mg clomid per day and your aromasin, and then re-test. Angelo is correct in that as you get older it don't always happen in 2-4 weeks. I think that you might recover if you do two more weeks. It may take you to about 600 or so.

 

[BigBusiness]

I've noticed as I have aged that recovery and PCT takes longer for natural test to return to optimal levels. You may just be taking longer to recover after your cycles, I personally never do less than 6-8 weeks PCT. I see both LH and FSH are within range so thats all online up and running. How many blood works have you done post cycle and how long has it been since your cycle and how long were you on cycle ?

These were taken three weeks post pct. Last cycle three weeks out my test was 517. What was supposed to a 16 week cycle cutt to 12 because of a medical condition.

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[BigBusiness]

I think that your level is really is not so bad. Also I don't see an estradiol, so I am wondering if that could be high. You could go for another two weeks of 50mg clomid per day and your aromasin, and then re-test. Angelo is correct in that as you get older it don't always happen in 2-4 weeks. I think that you might recover if you do two more weeks. It may take you to about 600 or so.

Ya im already Three weeks off pct tho. My estro was 19.9. Everything else looks pretty good. I donated blood yesterday so the rbc is taken care of

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[MaxxPursuit]

I'd give it a little more time bud. Re-test in another 2-3 weeks and see if it picked up more. Your test levels don't look that bad to me only 3 weeks out from pct. What was your estradiol?

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[BigBusiness]

I'd give it a little more time bud. Re-test in another 2-3 weeks and see if it picked up more. Your test levels don't look that bad to me only 3 weeks out from pct. What was your estradiol?

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19.9

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[Jake]

Ya im already Three weeks off pct tho. My estro was 19.9. Everything else looks pretty good. I donated blood yesterday so the rbc is taken care of

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So I really think that if you start back up on another 2 week clomid cycle you will recover. If you don't then you will know for sure that it is trt time. It's up to you but I would rather see you take a shot at recovery again before a liftime commitment

 

[MaxxPursuit]

19.9

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Ok cool, looks good so we can rule out that as not an issue. It may just be that your taking a little longer to recover. No one can really say right now. You have a couple options, you could either not take anything for now then retest in a couple weeks to see where you are. If your levels raise, great. If not, you could always run clomid for a couple weeks and then retest again afterwards. Or you just run clomid for a couple weeks starting now and retest to see where you are. If you don't recover, then you know you at least tried and then can make the decision on committing to trt. I would bank on my natural test to keep working if possible. Keep us posted bro.

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[BigBusiness]

So I really think that if you start back up on another 2 week clomid cycle you will recover. If you don't then you will know for sure that it is trt time. It's up to you but I would rather see you take a shot at recovery again before a liftime commitment

Thanks bro I always appreciate your advice. You are correct I would much rather recover than start trt. But what if my test levels drop down to low 400's again, would it be worth considering then with a 400

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[BigBusiness]

Ok cool, looks good so we can rule out that as not an issue. It may just be that your taking a little longer to recover. No one can really say right now. You have a couple options, you could either not take anything for now then retest in a couple weeks to see where you are. If your levels raise, great. If not, you could always run clomid for a couple weeks and then retest again afterwards. Or you just run clomid for a couple weeks starting now and retest to see where you are. If you don't recover, then you know you at least tried and then can make the decision on committing to trt. I would bank on my natural test to keep working if possible. Keep us posted bro.

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I plan on it brotha. Just wantimg some honest advice about my test levels at this point. Thank you my man

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[MaxxPursuit]

Thanks bro I always appreciate your advice. You are correct I would much rather recover than start trt. But what if my test levels drop down to low 400's again, would it be worth considering then with a 400

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That'll have to be something you decide on. Lots of things to consider. If you're feeling fine afterwards and not experiencing any low t symptoms then I don't see a reason to go the trt route. Lots of guys feel fine in the 400's. If you do feel low t symptoms, then it will be something for you to think on. Maybe eventually you will need to go on trt but right now I'd push it out as long as you feel fine.

 

[BigBusiness]

That'll have to be something you decide on. Lots of things to consider. If you're feeling fine afterwards and not experiencing any low t symptoms then I don't see a reason to go the trt route. Lots of guys feel fine in the 400's. If you do feel low t symptoms, then it will be something for you to think on. Maybe eventually you will need to go on trt but right now I'd push it out as long as you feel fine.

Ive noticed my libido hasn't been on point

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[MaxxPursuit]

Ive noticed my libido hasn't been on point

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That's not good especially when the wife is about to start primo! lol... well dude, if you don't recover and you're still feeling shitty, low libido, etc then trt is something to consider. At the end of the day, it's about your health and well being. If you were feeling fine and looking for a reason to go the trt route with no real need then I wouldn't agree but if you're having bedroom issues and it's actually impacting the way you feel and live your life, then trt is an option as long as you've come to grips with the commitment. For now, don't give up on your natural output, try to see if you can bring that up. If it doesn't work out and you still don't feel yourself, you can make your decision.

 

[BigBusiness]

That's not good especially when the wife is about to start primo! lol... well dude, if you don't recover and you're still feeling shitty, low libido, etc then trt is something to consider. At the end of the day, it's about your health and well being. If you were feeling fine and looking for a reason to go the trt route with no real need then I wouldn't agree but if you're having bedroom issues and it's actually impacting the way you feel and live your life, then trt is an option as long as you've come to grips with the commitment. For now, don't give up on your natural output, try to see if you can bring that up. If it doesn't work out and you still don't feel yourself, you can make your decision.

Oh for sure bro and she wants to start her cycle before i syart mine...lol. I dont wanna give up on my natural test just yet. Good thing that PHURIOUS Viagra is some flame!!!

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[MaxxPursuit]

Oh for sure bro and she wants to start her cycle before i syart mine...lol. I dont wanna give up on my natural test just yet. Good thing that PHURIOUS Viagra is some flame!!!

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Keep it stocked up bro. I heard if you pin it straight into the tip, you get immediate results... Good luck.

 

[BigBusiness]

Keep it stocked up bro. I heard if you pin it straight into the tip, you get immediate results... Good luck.

LMAO...I'll get right on that!!

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[MaxxPursuit]

LMAO...I'll get right on that!!

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Hey if it can handle an alcohol injection, it can handle anything. Am I right? Lmao..

 

[BigBusiness]

Hey if it can handle an alcohol injection, it can handle anything. Am I right? Lmao..

You got me!! Fuck I'm doin it..lol
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[Jake]

Thanks bro I always appreciate your advice. You are correct I would much rather recover than start trt. But what if my test levels drop down to low 400's again, would it be worth considering then with a 400

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If you do 2 more weeks of clomid and do bloods and say test is 600.. then it drops back down to 400 then ,yes..I would consider a low dose trt.