I wonder why they have been calling it "wimpy winny" for all these years??? Winny on its own does deliver some strength gains.Just not a huge amount. Take dbol and you start smacking plates on. These are the anabolic/androgenic effects of aas and that is why they have A/A ratings. Test being Mr 100! The anabolic rating of test is 100 and the androgenic rating is 100. So test is what all aas are compared to. So to really understand this you need to get a good understanding of anabolic and androgenic. I won't go in to that here.
So test is 100 and 100. Well what is tren? That would be 500 and 500. Due to winstrol's anabolic activity (320) it can be ok but it has a pityfull androgenic rating(30). This puts winstrol way down on the list when you are looking for size. Remember you need to have both,..anabolic and androgenic, so this is what makes STACKING a beautiful thing!!! When you develop a cycle for yourself these are the things you should be looking at. What is the A/A of each compound.
Now here is a titbit...sorry tidbit...winny seems to work really well for women...including my wife. AND remember in high school those dudes that could sprint the 100 in 10 seconds? And remember those giants on the wrestling team?
Well winny turns the sprinters into big muscular guys, but the giants call it cheerios. Just my observation! I have never gotten much from it. Maybe like creatine x2. Believe me...being on dbol you will be big as well as really strong. Dbol if my memory still serves me is 100/210. Stronger than test and a great addition to a test stack when you are looking for mass. Don't let the water issue fool you. When you are on dbol it is not like you are a big bag of walking water. It is all about the anabolic/androgenic rating. These are the only A/A ratings that I remember, but I do have a complete listing if you need it.