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Please don't be offended, but you'll need to do some research on your own. We can lay out a complete plan for you, but you need to understand the why"s, what if"s, do"s and don't"s first.
 
gutomarah said:
what is the best 1st cycle for a body transformation... fat loss and muscle gains... i heard test only is a very good one.. now which test is better to use e or c... what kind of ai will i need with each of them adn what kind of pct and how long can i use test for and how lon pct? will 10-12 weeks be enough for a 1st cycle or is that too long? how many times a week will i have to inject? what other suplements or steroids will i need to go along with this cycle?

Here is a very strong first cycle layout for you... i prefer test c but you can do e or c as they are quite similar... everything is laid out for you and i cannot possibly make this any easier for you... you inject twice a week... split it 3-4 days apart...

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week


pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

cycle assist

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day
 
Re: RE: test

gutomarah said:
what is the best 1st cycle for a body transformation... fat loss and muscle gains... i heard test only is a very good one.. now which test is better to use e or c... what kind of ai will i need with each of them adn what kind of pct and how long can i use test for and how lon pct? will 10-12 weeks be enough for a 1st cycle or is that too long? how many times a week will i have to inject? what other suplements or steroids will i need to go along with this cycle?
Hey bro, test only is definitely best for a first cycle, but even that depends on if you are ready for that or not. It sounds like you need to concentrate on doing a bit more research based on your questions. I can't remember if you've posted them before or not, but what are your stats and experience?
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There are other alternatives as well, like sarms that may be a better option for you at this time
 
gutomarah said:
i am on anavar and a prohormone now... i am on week 3. so my question is if i was to start this cycle

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
cycle assist
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

do i have to wait until my current cycle is over? my current cycle is only 4 weeks long and i have nolva and clomid for pct. so can i just start this cycle after my anavar and prohormone runs out? or do i have to finish it.. do pct and then start this cycle? Would i be able to just go ahead and pretty much add this new cycle after the old one without a pct between them and just a pct after both.?

No, bro. Absolutely not. You need to take the appropriate amount of time off. You can't just go,on another cycle. You,really need to do a lot more research. You are getting way ahead of yourself here with everything. You,need to take about 3 months off after PCT before starting another cycle, and I suggest you start researching everything you can before then.
 
gutomarah said:
i am on anavar and a prohormone now... i am on week 3. so my question is if i was to start this cycle

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
cycle assist
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

do i have to wait until my current cycle is over? my current cycle is only 4 weeks long and i have nolva and clomid for pct. so can i just start this cycle after my anavar and prohormone runs out? or do i have to finish it.. do pct and then start this cycle? Would i be able to just go ahead and pretty much add this new cycle after the old one without a pct between them and just a pct after both.?

your current cycle is 4 weeks on and then 4 weeks of pct... that is 8 weeks total so you need 8 weeks off... during those 8 weeks, you should run a sarms bridge to help keep and add to the gains you made on cycle... THEN you can go into this stack... you could run lgd and gw during your bridge and then you won't have down time running other sarms together in your new cycle...
 
Listen to these men gutomarah, Rick & Dylan have spelled it out for you to a "T"...follow exactly what they've said......stick around this board and we'll get you there brotha
 
Re: RE: Re: test

DylanGemelli said:
gutomarah said:
i am on anavar and a prohormone now... i am on week 3. so my question is if i was to start this cycle

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
cycle assist
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

do i have to wait until my current cycle is over? my current cycle is only 4 weeks long and i have nolva and clomid for pct. so can i just start this cycle after my anavar and prohormone runs out? or do i have to finish it.. do pct and then start this cycle? Would i be able to just go ahead and pretty much add this new cycle after the old one without a pct between them and just a pct after both.?

your current cycle is 4 weeks on and then 4 weeks of pct... that is 8 weeks total so you need 8 weeks off... during those 8 weeks, you should run a sarms bridge to help keep and add to the gains you made on cycle... THEN you can go into this stack... you could run lgd and gw during your bridge and then you won't have down time running other sarms together in your new cycle...
^This is exactly your best plan of attack right here. Bridge with sarms with the appropriate time off before starting your next cycle
 
DylanGemelli said:
gutomarah said:
i am on anavar and a prohormone now... i am on week 3. so my question is if i was to start this cycle

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
cycle assist
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

do i have to wait until my current cycle is over? my current cycle is only 4 weeks long and i have nolva and clomid for pct. so can i just start this cycle after my anavar and prohormone runs out? or do i have to finish it.. do pct and then start this cycle? Would i be able to just go ahead and pretty much add this new cycle after the old one without a pct between them and just a pct after both.?

your current cycle is 4 weeks on and then 4 weeks of pct... that is 8 weeks total so you need 8 weeks off... during those 8 weeks, you should run a sarms bridge to help keep and add to the gains you made on cycle... THEN you can go into this stack... you could run lgd and gw during your bridge and then you won't have down time running other sarms together in your new cycle...
Exactly... Using SARMS between cycles is a excellent bridge, and can really keep the gains coming if you train and eat correctly. You definitely want to give yourself a break though... Especially since you are running two orals together.
 
gutomarah said:
yeah il wait 8 weeks. thanx for the help

in between cycles, this is what i would do...

1-8 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-8 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day




Mini pct 9-12

clomid 25/25/25/25



Then after you complete your mini, you can go straight into your next cycle...
 
gutomarah said:
1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

would it be ok to add anavar to this?


yes, you would add it 9-14 as well as cycle assist...
 
gutomarah said:
can i replace proviron with tren?

bro, where are you getting this from??? NO, you cannot... its your first cycle... you don't take the harshest steroid in existence and run it on a first cycle... that is not even close to the same thing as proviron... where are you getting this?
 
gutomarah said:
can i replace proviron with tren?


Woah! WTF?? I'm not laughing at you bro, but I am laughing at whomever is telling you this. Damn. :roll:

That's like saying "Can I replace a nice lean chicken dinner with a Big Mac!!
 
gutomarah said:
oh ok. and can i use aromasin and nolva on cycle ? im paranoid about not geting gyno


aromasin is enough on its own... you don't want to overdo it as that will become a problem... 12.5 mg eod is plenty...
 
gutomarah said:
oh ok. and can i use aromasin and nolva on cycle ? im paranoid about not geting gyno


Control your estrogen with your Aromasin dose, and gyno will never be an issue
 
gutomarah said:
DylanGemelli said:
gutomarah said:
1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

would it be ok to add anavar to this?


yes, you would add it 9-14 as well as cycle assist...


how many mg anavar a day

40-60mg ED
 
gutomarah said:
DylanGemelli said:
gutomarah said:
1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

would it be ok to add anavar to this?


yes, you would add it 9-14 as well as cycle assist...


how many mg anavar a day

there is no need to exceed 60 mg per day... if you have quality anavar, that is plenty...
 
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