I'm currently 3 weeks into a primo/test cycle and I'm having some effects that I did not expect. My cycle consists of 500mg/wk of Test Cyp, along with 800mg of Primo (Robo, 2x week), plus 50mg proviron a day. In addition, I'm also about 3 weeks into a GW and MK-2866 SARMS. No noticeable gains as of yet, but I did not really expect much this early on. What I am noticing is the following: chest and arm acne, libido way down, sleep overall worse. I also seem to have quite a bit of sinus congestion, but have no other symptoms of it being a common cold. And when I exercise, the sinus congestion gets worse. And speaking of exercise, my cardio is really bad now. I can no longer make it through my weight lifting workouts without experiencing episodes of trouble breathing and having to stop to catch my breath. Prior to the cycle, the only weight lifting routine that really tested my cardio and slowed me down would be leg day, but now other workouts like chest, back, etc are all leaving me breathless at some point during the workout causing me to stop and regain my breath. Heck I can't do simple tasks around the house lately without getting winded. And my anger has been on the rise, short temper, mean thoughts. Heck it almost is like I'm on Tren, but I doubt that's the case, but I'm not sure what is going on. I was excited about the prospect of the GW to give me boost of endurance, but even that is doing nothing. I also tend to have some anxiety and that seems to be up as of late as well. Given how expensive Primo is, I hate to pull the plug this early into the cycle (the plan was for 16 weeks). But my plan was to step up the intensity and frequency of my workouts but right now I feel so out of shape I can barely do the minimum. I am not having any other symptoms of a cold/flu or something that I am aware of, and I did not expect these types of side effects. I've taken Test Cyp off an on for a long time, and was fine with it. I sure hope its not the primo, nothing I have read about its positive effects really adds up to how I'm feeling. And I still get PIP every time I inject it. I've done delts, thighs, and glutes. Each time I'm mildly sore for a few days. Pretty bummed right now.
test/primo cycle...experiencing some unexpected symptoms
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rockmfhudd
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where did you get your sarms from? cuz 3 weeks in you should def be getting results from the gw and mk. I did in 3-4 days. now how it reacts with the other compounds other that the test I have no idea. I do know I was on proviron as well so to me the source would be the Primo but I have never taken primo.
21infantry
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Also Primo should give you a nice endurance bump also, something isn't adding up. I think you may need to lower the Test, I know Test at high doses can start screwing with youre cardio. Primo is the exact opposite.
Plus OP Primo does cause PIP, it has that reputation that isn't abnormal. Never ran it but that is the common theme of any review of the compound
rockmfhudd
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I was thinking that too maybe back it down half way and see what happens
rockmfhudd
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everyone is going to be different it could also be an allergic reaction to the oil used maybe a little anaphylaxis goin on. do you have allergies to certain oils or foods?
21infantry
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If you suspect the Primo you can always send it to me and Ill be your test bunny. Robo has a solid reputation I doubt its his gear that is the problem but another factor that does not agree with your body such as the Oil but I even think Robo uses the most common of oils. I would suggest contacting NY he is Robos rep and very knoweledgable I'm sure he can sort out the issue for you.
rockmfhudd
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right you can narrow it down for sure
rockmfhudd
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it is going to take just little tweaks here and there. and if the sarms aren't from Pure essence it is a gamble as well
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How much AI are you taking ?
SARMS came from Pure essence. Proviron (bayer) and test came from Hipo so I like to think I have good stuff. I actually started out the test at 250mg, just bumped it up on 3rd week, so I doubt that would be it as I have been having these symptoms for a couple of weeks. I hate to think its the primo, as I have heard nothing but good about Robo Primo. I have no allergies whatsoever, either. I'm not using an AI currently. I'm a bit perplexed as to what the problem is.
rockmfhudd
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hmm well you will def have to bump them down one at a time and see what the culprit is. something isn't right with one or all of them mixed together. did you say you had had primo before?
21infantry
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Not using a AI at 500mg Test a week? Your estrogen has to be off the charts, no wonder you feel like shit man. Get on Aromasin and I bet you will feel like gold in a couple of days. You mentioned that youre cardio sucks and have problems breathing.
One of the main symtoms of sky high Estrogen is your cardio going to shit and problems breathing. Its actually more prevalent then developing Gyno. Get some Aromasin ASAP
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PHURIOUS
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The products arnt the problem. Primo is one the mildest products when it comes to sides. The fact that you arnt using an ai is troubling. I havnt experienced pip on primo but i iust started using it. The pip could be if you are injecting a high volume of fluid with the cyp and primo. That being said if u have flu type symptoms its probly test flu. I wouldnt abandon any products i would get on an ai. Preferebly aromasin like now.
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PHURIOUS
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Plus three weeks in neother the peimo nor the chp will you see noticable gains. Those are slow compounds. It takes time. Its not a race.
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21infantry
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People don't realizability how powerful estrogen is mg to mg it's stronger then test.
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21infantry
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Yup, better crushed then excessive. Contrary to popular belief it's anabolic and necessary but to much can screw you up. With high test always run a Ai even if your not prone to gyno. Gyno is only one of many symptoms that can negatively effect you.
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I do happen to have aromisen on hand, just didn't realize I needed it until after cycle. I'll get on it as soon as possible and see what happens. And to the person who asked if I have used primo before, the answer is no I have not. thanks for all the feedback, hopefully its as simple as the AI
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PHURIOUS
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Ya u need to take that asap. Take it everyday for the next five days. Then go to eod
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