T-bol + Test Prop

[ddreamzbrah]

Hey guys, I'm Daniel from Bulgaria

I'm 20 years old, 181cm tall 194pounds BF 12%, I've been working out for about 5 years. I have only one monocylce before with Primobolan (for 8weeks).
Now i'm looking for a decent cycle and i'm wondering if this stack of steroids will bring me the results that i'm looking for - 11 pounds of lean muscle. It's fine - I can do it during the cycle but the question is more about - are these steroids appropriate to maintain the gains after the cycle? While i was running primo i got around 15pounds and i maintained 80% of them.

The cycle looks like:
1-10 Test Prop 100mg
1week - Tbol - 40mg
2-5 week - Tbol - 50mg
6 week - Tbol - 40mg
1-10 Exemestane 1/2 tablet daily
1-10 Proviron 50mg daily
1-10 Choriomon 500U weekly

Any suggestions ?

Thanks!

 

[RickRock]

Hey guys, I'm Daniel from Bulgaria

I'm 20 years old, 181cm tall 194pounds BF 12%, I've been working out for about 5 years. I have only one monocylce before with Primobolan (for 8weeks).
Now i'm looking for a decent cycle and i'm wondering if this stack of steroids will bring me the results that i'm looking for - 11 pounds of lean muscle. It's fine - I can do it during the cycle but the question is more about - are these steroids appropriate to maintain the gains after the cycle? While i was running primo i got around 15pounds and i maintained 80% of them.

The cycle looks like:
1-10 Test Prop 100mg
1week - Tbol - 40mg
2-5 week - Tbol - 50mg
6 week - Tbol - 40mg
1-10 Exemestane 1/2 tablet daily
1-10 Proviron 50mg daily
1-10 Choriomon 500U weekly

Any suggestions ?

Thanks!

Welcome to adrenaline rush, Daniel. I know you've already done a cycle, but bro you are really young for steroids right now.have you considered something like sarms? I think they will be great for your goal without the severe shutdown of steroids. I just don't want to see you messing with your endocrine system at such a young age. I can help you set up something for a sarms cycle, but I'm just not comfortable with you,running steroids at that age. We are just looking out for your best interests here.

 

[cmb5017]

Daniel hes right you need to hold off for a few more years. A sarms cycle may be all u need. 100mg of prop won't do much for u anyway. Prop is a short ester. U will have to inject every other day. And a more likely cycle would be 100mg EOD. Not 100mg per week. Give it a little thought first. I definitely would not run the cycle your suggesting

 

[drb_iac]

Absolutely no juice for you young fella. Your own tes is getting ready to ramp up and take you for a nice ride. I am glad you just did primo, but that cycle you did probably brought nothing for you. You took a weak roid and shut down your own more powerfull juice. Your own tes right now is better than primo. I know this is hard and you are itchy but...WAIT 2-3 MORE YEARS! Right now and for at least 2 more years you workout like a fool, eat like a fool and sleep like a baby. The next day repeat. Then when you do run a cycle it should be light and well thought out. Ask someone on this board what you can run in the meantime. I am not up on supps and sarms, but that is where you want to start at this point in your life...TRUST ME on this.

 

[ddreamzbrah]

cmb5017 - I meant that i will have propionate injection every other day (not 1 injection weekly).
However, I have never heard about SERMs. I just watched D. Gemelli's comparison with roids and it sounds great and i would get advantage of this but there is an issue. Im pretty sure there is no such thing like SERMs being saled on the market/black market in my country. Actually, I don't know how to buy this at all.
Yeah, I'm kinda young for roids usage but the things need to happen early in your life not when you hit 30s or later age. I'm not doing this only because I want to look great or I wanna be the big bad boy in the gym - nah, thats not my goal at all. Im fine, I like how I look like. Sports community makes you take this shit and you all know it. If you wanna be a pro or some kind of a bodybuilder/fitness model you have to take it and you realize it at some point in your life.
Whatever, if im running this steroid cycle i'm trying to be on the most safely way. What if i do a decent PCT and bring my testosterone back to normal levels after the cycle?
P.M. As i said if anyone has any idea for me how to get serms i will try, otherwise lets discuss the topic because i'm still wondering if i need all this shit and if it is worth it.

 

[gymrat827]

dude hold out 1 more year.


I have learned the hard way. Trust me. Just wait a tad bit longer

 

[cmb5017]

cmb5017 - I meant that i will have propionate injection every other day (not 1 injection weekly).
However, I have never heard about SERMs. I just watched D. Gemelli's comparison with roids and it sounds great and i would get advantage of this but there is an issue. Im pretty sure there is no such thing like SERMs being saled on the market/black market in my country. Actually, I don't know how to buy this at all.
Yeah, I'm kinda young for roids usage but the things need to happen early in your life not when you hit 30s or later age. I'm not doing this only because I want to look great or I wanna be the big bad boy in the gym - nah, thats not my goal at all. Im fine, I like how I look like. Sports community makes you take this shit and you all know it. If you wanna be a pro or some kind of a bodybuilder/fitness model you have to take it and you realize it at some point in your life.
Whatever, if im running this steroid cycle i'm trying to be on the most safely way. What if i do a decent PCT and bring my testosterone back to normal levels after the cycle?
P.M. As i said if anyone has any idea for me how to get serms i will try, otherwise lets discuss the topic because i'm still wondering if i need all this shit and if it is worth it.

Yea EOD is ok. If extreme competition is your ultimate goal then starting early may be what u have to do. But its not recommended to do roids until you have exhausted your natural capabilities. Starting young can cause u serious repercussions later in life and I dont want you to regret it. Health is your top priority. .you mess that up you cant lift period so it'll all be a waste. I wished I knew of a place that sells to your country but im not sure about whats available there. Research on Google maybe you can find a source

 

[DylanGemelli]

cmb5017 - I meant that i will have propionate injection every other day (not 1 injection weekly).
However, I have never heard about SERMs. I just watched D. Gemelli's comparison with roids and it sounds great and i would get advantage of this but there is an issue. Im pretty sure there is no such thing like SERMs being saled on the market/black market in my country. Actually, I don't know how to buy this at all.
Yeah, I'm kinda young for roids usage but the things need to happen early in your life not when you hit 30s or later age. I'm not doing this only because I want to look great or I wanna be the big bad boy in the gym - nah, thats not my goal at all. Im fine, I like how I look like. Sports community makes you take this shit and you all know it. If you wanna be a pro or some kind of a bodybuilder/fitness model you have to take it and you realize it at some point in your life.
Whatever, if im running this steroid cycle i'm trying to be on the most safely way. What if i do a decent PCT and bring my testosterone back to normal levels after the cycle?
P.M. As i said if anyone has any idea for me how to get serms i will try, otherwise lets discuss the topic because i'm still wondering if i need all this shit and if it is worth it.

hey bro... as everyone else has already brought to your attention, your WAY too young for steroid use bro... you need to catch this before its too late and get on the right track or your going to cause long term damage in so many aspects... please be wise and listen to everyone here as they truly have your best interest and health in mind... sarms can be shipped to bulgaria with no problem... it has been done several times...

 

[RickRock]

cmb5017 - I meant that i will have propionate injection every other day (not 1 injection weekly).
However, I have never heard about SERMs. I just watched D. Gemelli's comparison with roids and it sounds great and i would get advantage of this but there is an issue. Im pretty sure there is no such thing like SERMs being saled on the market/black market in my country. Actually, I don't know how to buy this at all.
Yeah, I'm kinda young for roids usage but the things need to happen early in your life not when you hit 30s or later age. I'm not doing this only because I want to look great or I wanna be the big bad boy in the gym - nah, thats not my goal at all. Im fine, I like how I look like. Sports community makes you take this shit and you all know it. If you wanna be a pro or some kind of a bodybuilder/fitness model you have to take it and you realize it at some point in your life.
Whatever, if im running this steroid cycle i'm trying to be on the most safely way. What if i do a decent PCT and bring my testosterone back to normal levels after the cycle?
P.M. As i said if anyone has any idea for me how to get serms i will try, otherwise lets discuss the topic because i'm still wondering if i need all this shit and if it is worth it.

Brother we are only trying to help you here. I noticed your comment saying that things need to happen before you hit your 30s, or later in life, which couldn't be farther from the truth. This lifestyle is a marathon and not a sprint. I'll be 41 here in about a week, and I've only been using juice for about 5 years. That's right man. I trained completely natural for over 20 years, and it's one of the best decisions I ever made. Don't get wrapped up in this "I need everything now" mentality, because you start cycling now, where do you go from here in 10 years, or 20 years? You'll keep wanting to increase doses and compounds in order to see more results, and it is a chain of events that leads to an abusive lifestyle. If we can help you with anything, let us know

 

[gymrat827]

DUDE 1 MORE YEAR.

thats it. yes, 2.5 would be better, but we know thats not going to happen.

Buy yourself a kit of GH to holdout til then. You cant do any damage with that. Osta + GH or peptides for a year with a real real diet from Dylan.

I assure you, the diet plan + osta & GH will put muscle on you. Taking everything at the proper times is key

 

[ddreamzbrah]

Alright no testosterone for the time being.
Can anyone tell me what kind of serms i have to be looking for? Anything specifically?

To be honest,I have been wondering about peptides in order to avoid roid usage or to substitute it in some way. The question is the same ... There are like 1000 different peptides for different goals and I am actually confused which one I have to be looking for.

Last question about roids. What if i run a monocycle with primobolan ( it is the safest steroid out there, isn't it? Moreover I am able to buy it from a pharmacy ) again without injecting any kind of testosterone? The last time ( and the only one ever with steroid ) I was on primo I've noticed that my libido significantly lowered. I was taking 25mg of proviron daily during the whole cycle which was not enough. Any suggestions how to solve this problem if i choose to take primo again? I was injecting 300mg weekly.
Thanks for the advice in the previous posts!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Alright no testosterone for the time being.
Can anyone tell me what kind of serms i have to be looking for? Anything specifically?

To be honest,I have been wondering about peptides in order to avoid roid usage or to substitute it in some way. The question is the same ... There are like 1000 different peptides for different goals and I am actually confused which one I have to be looking for.

Last question about roids. What if i run a monocycle with primobolan ( it is the safest steroid out there, isn't it? Moreover I am able to buy it from a pharmacy ) again without injecting any kind of testosterone? The last time ( and the only one ever with steroid ) I was on primo I've noticed that my libido significantly lowered. I was taking 25mg of proviron daily during the whole cycle which was not enough. Any suggestions how to solve this problem if i choose to take primo again? I was injecting 300mg weekly.
Thanks for the advice in the previous posts!

brother, primo is a steroid... you should not be using steroids at your age in any way shape or form... your going to be very hard pressed to find anyone with any sort of ethics or care to advise you to use or how to use steroids at your age...

in terms of sarms to use, not serms bro, SARMS, tell me your ultimate goal from the cycle and i'll get you all set up!

 

[ddreamzbrah]

I'm just looking for about 9-10 pounds lean muscle without any water retention. I am a patient guy. I just want to enhance my performance at the gym. I actually have a feeling that I'm not progressing recently or i have some kind of stagnation. As i said i have fairly good amount of muscle mass like 88 kilos at 181cm with 12% BF. My goal for the time being is 90-91 kilos at 8-9% BF.
I would try sarms with pleasure as soon as you recommend them so bad. In general, this is the goal because of which i wanna run steroid cycle.
Let me know what kind of sarms I should be looking for, if possible. Thanks!

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm just looking for about 9-10 pounds lean muscle without any water retention. I am a patient guy. I just want to enhance my performance at the gym. I actually have a feeling that I'm not progressing recently or i have some kind of stagnation. As i said i have fairly good amount of muscle mass like 88 kilos at 181cm with 12% BF. My goal for the time being is 90-91 kilos at 8-9% BF.
I would try sarms with pleasure as soon as you recommend them so bad. In general, this is the goal because of which i wanna run steroid cycle.
Let me know what kind of sarms I should be looking for, if possible. Thanks!

for your goal, i would run this

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
5-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 daa

Mini pct 13-16


clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[RickRock]

I'm just looking for about 9-10 pounds lean muscle without any water retention. I am a patient guy. I just want to enhance my performance at the gym. I actually have a feeling that I'm not progressing recently or i have some kind of stagnation. As i said i have fairly good amount of muscle mass like 88 kilos at 181cm with 12% BF. My goal for the time being is 90-91 kilos at 8-9% BF.
I would try sarms with pleasure as soon as you recommend them so bad. In general, this is the goal because of which i wanna run steroid cycle.
Let me know what kind of sarms I should be looking for, if possible. Thanks!

for your goal, i would run this

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
5-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 daa

Mini pct 13-16


clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

This is honestly the very best sarms layout you will find, so Dylan has you covered very well. It is the sarms super stack, and there is nothing better out there for building muscle mass and dropping bodyfat as far as sarms are concerned. Run this layout exactly like Dylan has laid out and I'm sure you will love the results.

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