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Switching to different kinds of test

m555zma

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How is the body affected by switching esters? Was on cyp 500mg/week. Now going to start 250mg/week cruise, and thinking about enanthate.. That ok?
 
The enanthate ester has a half life of 10.5 days, whereas Cypionate has a half life of 12 days. You won't really be able to notice a difference from switching esters, as both half lives are very similar.
 
What alot of people do not understand, is that when you dose your injectables at eg 100mg/ml, unless you are using Base hormone, you are actually NOT getting 100mg of the hormone.

Labs attach the ester to the hormone in order to slow down the breakdown/release of the hormone into your system. The general rule is that, the longer the Ester (how long the half life of hormone is) the less hormone you will be getting mg for mg.

Half life is the time from when you inject a hormone, until when it has reached 50% of injected dose.

EG Testosterone Enanthate has a half life of 5-7 days depending upon ones metabolism. that means that if you inject 100mg of testosterone enanthate, in 5-7 days, your body will have used and disposed of 50mg (or 50%)

anyway, when using AAS, the most important thing you can do to minimize side effects, is to keep your levels as stable as possible. that may mean injecting smaller doses more frequently. your body works hard to balance its hormones, hence why if you increase or decrease an AAS or add something to your cycle, your mood is more likely to become unstable for about 2 weeks until your levels stabilize.
Personally, I will pin Test E or Test C twice a week.

But there is really is alot of misinformation out there. here is a guide to help plan your cycles properly to make sure that your levels dont drop sub PAR and encourage more side effect. Especially worth noting when doing orals.

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life

Anabolicum Vister (Quinbolone) - Active Life: less than 8-12 hours
Activella (Norethindrone Acetate) - 9 hours
Anadrol / Anapolan (Oxymetholone) - 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (Oxandrolone) - 9 hours
Orabolin (Ethylestrenol) - 3.3 hours
Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone) - 9.2 hours.
Dimethyltestosterone (Bolasterone/Myagen) - 6 hours
Dianabol (Methandrostenolone, Methandienone) - 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltrienolone (MT/ M3/ Metribolone/ Oral tren) - 4 to 5 hours
Methasterone (Superdrol) - 8-12 hours
Methyltestosterone - 6-8 hours
Methylhydroxynandrolone (MOHN) - approx. 12 Hours
Oranabol (Oxymesterone) - 8-10 Hours
M1T (Methyl - 1 - Testosterone) - 5 hours
Sublingual Testosterone Cyclodextrin - 60-68 min
Winstrol (Stanozolol) - 9 hours (oral)
Tetrahydrogestrinone (The Clear / THG) - 24 to 48 hours
Turanabol ( 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone) - 16 hours
Proviron (Mesterolone) - 12 - 13 hours
Cheque Drops (Mibolerone) - 3.7 hours
Methenolone Acetate - around 3 hours

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life

Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate (NPP) - 5 days
Deca-Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanate) - 6 days
Dynabolan (Nandrolone Undecanoate) - 6-7 days
Anadur (Nandrolone Hexylphenylpropionate) - 6-8 days
Dimethylnandrolone (DMN) - about 4 hours

Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate) - 14 days

Primobolan (Methenolone Enanthate) - 10.5 days
Methenolone Acetate (Injectable) - 4-5 days

Sustanon / Omnadren - 15 to 18 days

Winstrol (Stanozolol) - 24 hours (injectable)

Masterject (Masteron, Mastabol) (Drostanolone Propionate) - 1-2 days
Masterject (Masteron, Mastabol) (Drostanolone Enanthate) - 5-6 days

Stenbolone Acetate (Anatrofin) - 1-2 days

Methandriol Dipropionate - 1-2 days

Finaplix/Finaject (Trenbolone Acetate) - 24-48 hours
Trenbolone Enanthate - 7-10 days
Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate - 14 days.
Parabolan (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate) - 14 days.

Testosterone Buciclate - 29.5 days (+/- 3.9 days)
Testosterone Undecanoate (Nebido) - 18.3(+-2.3) - 23.7 (+-2.7)
Testosterone Cypionate - around 8 days
Testosterone Enanthate - around 5-7 days
Testosterone Phenylpropionate - 2-3 days (active life 4-5 days)
Testosterone Propionate - 0.8-1.5 days (active life 3.5 days)
Testosterone Suspension - 2 peaks (immediately hits the blood stream when injected and then a few days later the solid particles are slowly absorbed by the body)
Agovirin Depot (Testosterone Isobutyrate) -12 to 15 Days
Dihydrotestosterone - 7 days


Ancillaries /Fat Burners Drug Active half-life

PI
Pramipexole Dihydrochloride (Mirapex, Mirapexin, Sifrol) - about 8 hours
Dostinex (Cabergoline) - between 63 to 69 hours
Parlodel (Bromocriptine Mesylate) - about 15 hours

AI
Arimidex (Anastrozole) - 30-46 hours
Femara (Letrozole) - 2-4 days
Aromasin (Exemestane) - about 24-27 hours
Cytadren (Aminoglutethimide) - 12.5 ± 1.6 hours.

An overview of the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the newer generation aromatase inhibitors anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane

AE
Clomid (Clomiphene Citrate) - 5-7 days
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) - 5-7 days
FARESTON® (Toremifene citrate) - 5 days

Fat Burners

Albuterol (Salbutamol) - 2.85 (+/- 0.83) - 2.00 (+/- 0.49) hours
Clenbuterol - 36-48 hours
Ephedrine Hydrochloride - 3-6 hours
T3 (Triiodothyronine/Liothyronine Sodium) - 10 hours
T4 (Levothyroxine sodium/ L-thyroxine) - 7 days
Yohimbine Hydrochloride - 36 min

Other

Accutane (Isotretinoin) - 15-23 hours (acne)
VIAGRA (Sildenafil) - about 4 hours (erectile dysfunction
Tadalafil (Cialis) - 17.5 hours (erectile dysfunction)
Valium (Diazepam) - 1-3 hours (up to the age) / peak 1-1.5 hours
Lasix (Furosemide) - approximately 2 hours

It is also of importance to note that the ester has weight in your dose.
EG testosterone Enanthate only has approximatly 71mg of testosterone per 100mg of 'hormone'. the other 29mg is the ester attached.

so people that are only injecting 200-250 mg of test E a week, are getting 140-175 mg of hormone. While this is above your natty test production, (unless supplementing HCG and or Clomid) is it really worth shutting down your natty test for such minimal elevated levels?

Personally, I never recommend anything under 400-500mg of a longer estered testosterone for supplementation.

Its also interesting to note that while test prop's ester is shorter than test Ace, test ace actually has more test mg for mg than test prop, also you can pin every two days and still keep levels very stable.

Below I will attach the table for hormones and ester weights.

Steroid Remaining After Ester is Removed
100mg Testosterone Suspension (un-esterified Testosterone) = 100mg Testosterone
100mg Testosterone Acetate = 87.28mg Testosterone (288.4244/330.4611=0.872793802356)
100mg Testosterone Propionate = 83.72mg Testosterone (288.4244/344.4877=0.8372560181)
100mg Testosterone Isobutyrate = 80.45mg Testosterone (288.4244/358.5143 =0.8044990)
100mg Testosterone Pentanoate = 77.42mg Testosterone (288.4244/372.5408=0.774208892)
100mg Testosterone Trimethylacetate = 77.42mg Testosterone (288.4244/372.5408=0.7742)
100mg Testosterone Isocaproate = 74.61mg Testosterone (288.4244/386.5674=0.746116718)
100mg Testosterone Hemisuccinate = 74.24mg Testosterone (288.4244/388.4972 =0.74241)
100mg Testosterone Benzoate = 73.47mg Testosterone (288.4244/392.5305=0.7347821379)
100mg Testosterone Dichloroacetate = 72.22mg Testosterone (288.4244/399.3512=0.72223)
100mg Testosterone Enanthate = 71.99mg Testosterone (288.4244/400.5940=0.719991812)
100mg Testosterone Cypionate = 69.9mg Testosterone (288.4244/412.6047=0.6990332393)
100mg Testosterone Caprylate = 69.56mg Testosterone (288.4244/414.6206=0.695634515)
100mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate = 68.57mg Testosterone (288.4244/420.5836=0.6857)
100mg Testosterone-3-Phenylpropionate = 68.25mg Testost-e(288.4244/422.5995=0.6825)
100mg Testosterone Tosylate = 65.16mg Testosterone (288.4244/442.6108=0.65164338511)
100mg Testosterone Decanoate = 65.15mg Testosterone (288.4244/442.6737=0.651550792)
100mg Testosterone Undecanoate = 65.15mg Testosterone (288.4244/ 456.7003=0.651550)
100mg Testosterone Dodecanoate = 61.27mg Testosterone (288.4244/470.7269=0.6127213)

100mg Trenbolone Acetate = 86.54mg Trenbolone (270.37/312.4028)
100mg Trenbolone Enanthate = 70.68mg Trenbolone (270.37/382.5357)
100mg Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate = 65.85 mg Trenbolone (270.37/410.54)

100mg Nandrolone Acetate = 86.71mg Nandrolone (274.3978/316.4345 =0.867155130050)
100mg Nandrolone Propionate = 83mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 330.4611 = 0.830348261868)
100mg Nandrolone Hemisuccinate = 72.88mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 376.4865 =0.72883)
100mg Nandrolone Benzoate = 72.5mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 378.5039 = 0.7249536926)
100mg Nandrolone Enanthate= 70.98mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 386.5674 =0.7098317136)
100mg Nandrolone Cypionate = 68.84mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 398.5781 = 0.688441738)
100mg Nandrolone Caprylate = 68.49mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 400.5940 =0.684977308)
100mg Nandrolone Phenylpropionate = 67.49mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 406.5571 = 0.674)
100mg Nandrolone Decanoate = 64mg Nandrolone (274.3978/428.6472 =0.640148355104)
100mg Nandrolone Undecanoate = 61.98mg Nandrolone (274.3978/ 442.6737 = 0.6198646)
100mg Nandrolone Dodecanoate = 60mg Nandrolone (274.3978/456.7003 = 0.600826844)
100mg Nandrolone P-Hexyloxyphenylpropionate = 54.15mg Nandrolone (274.3978/506.7159= 0.5415)

100mg Drostanolone Propionate = 84.45mg Drostanolone (304.4669/360.5301=0.844497)
100mg Drostanolone Enanthate = 73mg Drostanolone (304.4669/416.6365 = 0.7307734679)

100mg Boldenone Acetate = 87.20mg Boldenone (286.4085/328.4452 = 0.872013048143191)
100mg Boldenone Hemisuccinate = 74.1mg Boldenone (286.4085/386.4813 = 0.74106690)
100mg Boldenone Benzoate = 73.34mg Boldenone (286.4085/390.5146 = 0.7334130401270)
100mg Boldenone Hexahydrobenzoate = 72.22mg Boldenone (286.4085/ 396.5622 = 0.7222)
100mg Boldenone Undecylenate = 63.27mg Boldenone (286.4085/452.6686=0.6327112152)
100mg Boldenone Undecanoate = 62.99mg Boldenone (286.4085/ 454.6844 = 0.62990615)

100mg Methenolone Acetate = 87.8 mg Methenolone (302.4558/344.49=0.87798)
100mg Methenolone Enanthate = 72.95mg Methenolone (302.4558/414.6206 = 0.72947605)


Something to think about, and take into consideration when planning a cycle.

Hope it can help.
 
Awesome answer. So, from my understanding, the enanthate ester has a half life of up to 10.5, cypionate up to 12. You stated 5-7 and 8 respectively. When one of these esters is attached to the testosterone hormone and injected intramuscularly, is the half-life shorted? Obviously personal metabolism plays a role. Are the 10.5 and 12 day lives perhaps the half-life of these esters when injecting subcutaneously? I am not doubting what you said here at all, just trying to understand why there is conflicting information on the half lives of these esters, even from reputable medical websites? I have seen and heard that the half lives of E and Cyp are 10 and 12, as well as 5-7 and 8, like you stated. Either way, the enanthate and cypionate esters half lives are close. Thanks for the information...good to know.


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Awesome answer. So, from my understanding, the enanthate ester has a half life of up to 10.5, cypionate up to 12. You stated 5-7 and 8 respectively. When one of these esters is attached to the testosterone hormone and injected intramuscularly, is the half-life shorted? Obviously personal metabolism plays a role. Are the 10.5 and 12 day lives perhaps the half-life of these esters when injecting subcutaneously? I am not doubting what you said here at all, just trying to understand why there is conflicting information on the half lives of these esters, even from reputable medical websites? I have seen and heard that the half lives of E and Cyp are 10 and 12, as well as 5-7 and 8, like you stated. Either way, the enanthate and cypionate esters half lives are close. Thanks for the information...good to know.


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all this information has been cross referenced with the NCBI.GOV medical journals, where are you receiving your information from ? Even my pharma products i receive have the same half lifes in the instruction packets directly shipped states tesosterone cyps half life is 8 days. What are you basing your information on ?
 
all this information has been cross referenced with the NCBI.GOV medical journals, where are you receiving your information from ? Even my pharma products i receive have the same half lifes in the instruction packets directly shipped states tesosterone cyps half life is 8 days. What are you basing your information on ?

The 10.5 and 12 day half lives I remember reading from a 1980's journal from Krager (I believe it was a citation in one of Llewellyns books). However, I see I was wrong. NCBI.gov...I'll reference that from here on out. Thanks.
 
The 10.5 and 12 day half lives I remember reading from a 1980's journal from Krager (I believe it was a citation in one of Llewellyns books). However, I see I was wrong. NCBI.gov...I'll reference that from here on out. Thanks.

no problem. this is very accurate give or take a few points on the weights,
 
Awesome answer. So, from my understanding, the enanthate ester has a half life of up to 10.5, cypionate up to 12. You stated 5-7 and 8 respectively. When one of these esters is attached to the testosterone hormone and injected intramuscularly, is the half-life shorted? Obviously personal metabolism plays a role. Are the 10.5 and 12 day lives perhaps the half-life of these esters when injecting subcutaneously? I am not doubting what you said here at all, just trying to understand why there is conflicting information on the half lives of these esters, even from reputable medical websites? I have seen and heard that the half lives of E and Cyp are 10 and 12, as well as 5-7 and 8, like you stated. Either way, the enanthate and cypionate esters half lives are close. Thanks for the information...good to know.


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The half life of cypionate is 8 days and enanthate is 5-7 days. That info is the correct one. There's a lot of false info out there
 
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