Stupid Tren and Decca question concerning prolactin!

[21infantry]

Ran Decca and had no issues with prolactin, okay it was a TRT dose of 150/150 the Dylan enhanced TRT protocol. Ive read most of the issues with Decca being ran above 300, I know Tren is a prolactin atagonist also but I don't hear much about Tren causing it. Is Decca more prone to Prolactin buildup or the bigger culprit of this then Tren even though they both have the capacity to trigger it?

 

[drb_iac]

Ran Decca and had no issues with prolactin, okay it was a TRT dose of 150/150 the Dylan enhanced TRT protocol. Ive read most of the issues with Decca being ran above 300, I know Tren is a prolactin atagonist also but I don't hear much about Tren causing it. Is Decca more prone to Prolactin buildup or the bigger culprit of this then Tren even though they both have the capacity to trigger it?

No they are the same bro. The reason you here it on deca is that some guys run it up to 700-1000mgs, and tren is run a lot lower. Be on the lookout if your deca + tren is over 400, and 500 for sure.

 

[21infantry]

No they are the same bro. The reason you here it on deca is that some guys run it up to 700-1000mgs, and tren is run a lot lower. Be on the lookout if your deca + tren is over 400, and 500 for sure.

Thanks Doc, Ive been toying with a Idea or running Tren next cycle I'm just a little hesitant. If I do its going to be between 200 to 300mg with 400mg of Test Cyp. I have a bunch of Caber on hand.

 

[DylanGemelli]

trust me, both can equally cause prolactin throughout... i tried to run two nandrolones at once and it simply did not work... you dont need to be "scared" but you need to be conservative... 200-300 is plenty...

 

[21infantry]

trust me, both can equally cause prolactin throughout... i tried to run two nandrolones at once and it simply did not work... you dont need to be "scared" but you need to be conservative... 200-300 is plenty...

I'm not scared but I want to approach this with the utmost respect of this compound. I'm very conservative so this is kind of not my style, but I'm going to throw caution to the wind on this one but do it as conservative and safely as possible if that makes sense.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm not scared but I want to approach this with the utmost respect of this compound. I'm very conservative so this is kind of not my style, but I'm going to throw caution to the wind on this one but do it as conservative and safely as possible if that makes sense.

conservative is DEFINITELY the way to go with tren.. im telling you, and i know this FIRST HAND, you can get huge gains with just 200-300 mg per week...

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

conservative is DEFINITELY the way to go with tren.. im telling you, and i know this FIRST HAND, you can get huge gains with just 200-300 mg per week...

Indeed, Tren is just so strong it really does not take many mgs at all to achieve tremendous results. Gotta have alot of respect for Tren

 

[DylanGemelli]

We both did at the same time. Lol won't do that again.

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i would have to say and HOPE we BOTH learned our lesson

 

[RickRock]

No they are the same bro. The reason you here it on deca is that some guys run it up to 700-1000mgs, and tren is run a lot lower. Be on the lookout if your deca + tren is over 400, and 500 for sure.

This is EXACTLY the reason you hear more about it with Deca. People can tolerate Deca fine so those doses easily get pushed up a lot farther than they need to be.....where as with Tren that is not the case because the sides are so horrible they will humble most guys in a hurry.

Treat both equally in terms of the need for caber. They are both nandrolones and both will raise it substantially


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[RickRock]

conservative is DEFINITELY the way to go with tren.. im telling you, and i know this FIRST HAND, you can get huge gains with just 200-300 mg per week...

That is the absolute truth. Tren is extremely powerful and a little bit goes a long way.....it must be treated differently than any steroid out there. It commands respect, and if you don't respect it, it will own your ass in a hurry!


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[drb_iac]

And look bro you are one of us...don't say stupid anything about questions.This is how we learn. With aas I always went about it in a certain way.I did not have access to all of the info you guys have today, but I listened to those few that were in the know. I always started lower than what I was advised...patience is a virtue...no no...it is absolutely required when it come to your cycle and your health. My cycle that just ended was one of the best I have had, and mostly it was because of tren.I only used tren during a certain period in my life and then went away from it. So coming back to it after such a long time did wonders. All of my cycles go something like this. 200 cyp, 250 sus, 200 deca as my base. Then it may be 900 primo, or 800 eq, or 600 masteron. Well this time it was 150 tren E. For the first time in a long time I added a few lbs yet lost a tad of BF.
So no need to be scared of anything but be cautious, and show these compounds respect. Also I like trenE way way more than A. It is true that many who do trenA for the first time, never make it past 2 weeks. If they would do 50mg or less eod rather than 100,or 150 ed then they would have more chance of getting some results.
Too many guys want to jump into the high doses right away. That is totally not the way to go.
So my advice to you would be to get a test base that you like...maybe 200-400, and then add 150 trenA per week...or 50mg M,W,F...not eod yet. After one week you will be able to judge if you can go to eod. You know you have us here if you don't like something going on. Post or even pm me. Good luck.You look good now so you can expect some of those gains to come your way.

 

[JackSteel]

I've had a brief successful run with deca and tren but it was very low doses.
I think it was like 100test/100deca/75 tren a week. It was great but I would never try much more than that


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[Jake]

And look bro you are one of us...don't say stupid anything about questions.This is how we learn. With aas I always went about it in a certain way.I did not have access to all of the info you guys have today, but I listened to those few that were in the know. I always started lower than what I was advised...patience is a virtue...no no...it is absolutely required when it come to your cycle and your health. My cycle that just ended was one of the best I have had, and mostly it was because of tren.I only used tren during a certain period in my life and then went away from it. So coming back to it after such a long time did wonders. All of my cycles go something like this. 200 cyp, 250 sus, 200 deca as my base. Then it may be 900 primo, or 800 eq, or 600 masteron. Well this time it was 150 tren E. For the first time in a long time I added a few lbs yet lost a tad of BF.
So no need to be scared of anything but be cautious, and show these compounds respect. Also I like trenE way way more than A. It is true that many who do trenA for the first time, never make it past 2 weeks. If they would do 50mg or less eod rather than 100,or 150 ed then they would have more chance of getting some results.
Too many guys want to jump into the high doses right away. That is totally not the way to go.
So my advice to you would be to get a test base that you like...maybe 200-400, and then add 150 trenA per week...or 50mg M,W,F...not eod yet. After one week you will be able to judge if you can go to eod. You know you have us here if you don't like something going on. Post or even pm me. Good luck.You look good now so you can expect some of those gains to come your way.

And don't forget...with tren GW is a must.

 

[TotalPackage]

And don't forget...with tren GW is a must.

Very good reminder.

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[Gymjunkie38]

Also a big reason you hear more about prolactin with deca than tren is both are progesterone antagonist that cause prolactin problems but estrogen works with progesterones too cause prolactin with the typical tren cycle guys are running test prop at low doses with other DHT steroids and cutting so bodyfat is very low all of the factors make for very low estedial limiting risk. But with the typical deca cycle guys are running higher doses of long ester test orals like dbol and bulking so bodyfat is higher creating an estrogen madhouse that compounds the issue.