Steroids vs stimulants (Clen, fat burners)

[Aestheticprodigy]

I was just curious to know everyone's opinion on which one of these two things has a worse effect on a persons health in the long run. For example if a person wanted to get lean, would it be more beneficial for their health to do a moderate cycle of anavar or a moderate cycle of Clen or even over the counter fat burner such as ripped freak or ephedrine? What would you rather mess with....heart or hormones??

 

[r2truth]

i would bet on aas because thermogenics can mess up your heart bad. losing weight is more about a clean diet than it is about drugs. u can use all the drugs u want but if u eat shit your going to look like shit. if u do it right u should be spending more money on food than gear.

 

[RickRock]

I was just curious to know everyone's opinion on which one of these two things has a worse effect on a persons health in the long run. For example if a person wanted to get lean, would it be more beneficial for their health to do a moderate cycle of anavar or a moderate cycle of Clen or even over the counter fat burner such as ripped freak or ephedrine? What would you rather mess with....heart or hormones??

For the most part things can be used safely if not abused. Clen is something I would avoid all together just because it's so bad for you, but other fat burners, ephedrine, Albuterol, etc are fine if you don't abuse them. The same goes with AAS. You need to run things responsibly and not abuse them, or else they are very hard on your overall health.

When cutting fat, I would personally look into things like GW which actually improve lipids, blood pressure, and other health markers while burning fat.

 

[JackSteel]

i would bet on aas because thermogenics can mess up your heart bad. losing weight is more about a clean diet than it is about drugs. u can use all the drugs u want but if u eat shit your going to look like shit. if u do it right u should be spending more money on food than gear.

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[drb_iac]

I have gone on about this before, but it all boils down to use...or abuse. Years ago ,in the 60's, every mom, and woman on the street was prescribed diet pills. All of these women..men too, would go to the doc and say they needed to loose a few pounds. The doc readily gave them desoxsyn. The drug was used and was a good effective diet aid. You would have energy, euphoria, and never gave a dam about food. Then along come some schmoes who said well if granny is doing good on 25mg then we are going to do 125mgs. Then it went to abuse and addiction and death. Soon all of these diet aids got banned. Look desoxsyn up as it is still made today though very very controlled. Today it is called crystal meth. The clens, ehepeds today are second hand crap compared to the amphetamines of the 60's, and I would not take any of them. Steroids when used and not abused are good. Today many aids patients are making wonderfull recoveries using aas. If you need something for a diet aid then try water, protein and willpower. The aids patients are using 200/200 deca cyp. The take a look at bostin loyd as he uses 1,000,000/1,000,000 deca/ cyp. See the difference? You can use drugs with good results or you can abuse drugs and be dead. Use friggin sense before you dump stuff in your body. These guys who have the "big at any cost" attitude do not have a bright outlook. Why not see if Dylan or some of the more knowledgeable guys can put a sarms stack together for you. If something could increase your cardio output then maybe you could do your aerobics at new personal best tempo and then you would have a more natural diet aid.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I have gone on about this before, but it all boils down to use...or abuse. Years ago ,in the 60's, every mom, and woman on the street was prescribed diet pills. All of these women..men too, would go to the doc and say they needed to loose a few pounds. The doc readily gave them desoxsyn. The drug was used and was a good effective diet aid. You would have energy, euphoria, and never gave a dam about food. Then along come some schmoes who said well if granny is doing good on 25mg then we are going to do 125mgs. Then it went to abuse and addiction and death. Soon all of these diet aids got banned. Look desoxsyn up as it is still made today though very very controlled. Today it is called crystal meth. The clens, ehepeds today are second hand crap compared to the amphetamines of the 60's, and I would not take any of them. Steroids when used and not abused are good. Today many aids patients are making wonderfull recoveries using aas. If you need something for a diet aid then try water, protein and willpower. The aids patients are using 200/200 deca cyp. The take a look at bostin loyd as he uses 1,000,000/1,000,000 deca/ cyp. See the difference? You can use drugs with good results or you can abuse drugs and be dead. Use friggin sense before you dump stuff in your body. These guys who have the "big at any cost" attitude do not have a bright outlook. Why not see if Dylan or some of the more knowledgeable guys can put a sarms stack together for you. If something could increase your cardio output then maybe you could do your aerobics at new personal best tempo and then you would have a more natural diet aid.

EXACTLY... you know what that is brother... that's called the "more is better" concept and TOO MANY GUYS LIVE BY THAT... there are SO MANY better ways and methods... just like clen use... EVERYONE WANTS A FIX NOW, A SHORTCUT ETC... that's what clen is like... a quick fix that leaves you worse off... whether its long or short term damage or actually having an adverse effect after use is discontinued, its just not good either way... lower doses of things can be highly beneficial and allow for continued progress... what's the point in having one heavy hitter cycle and fucking yourself up for the long term? OR YOU CAN LOOK AT THE LONG TERM AND DO THIS WITH CAUTION BUT STILL BE AGGRESSIVE... It all comes down to proper planning and thinking... This is why i LOVE sarms... they have the results without the need to go overboard on dosing and none of the steroid type side effects yet yield the big results... its all about being strategic with intricate with your planning... that's the way to ensure continued gains and a longer life..