Spring Cycle Advice

[hardtoget]

New to the forum but have been working-out/weight training for 12-15 years of my life. I'm going all out for my second and last physique competition this coming November at the Night of Champions in Kansas City. Currently am running an intense PH cycle and going to stack RAD140 with Epistane 6 weeks out from my show day. Curently on Trestolone with Trendione. I'm also on TRT and I've noticed with prohormones vs. AAS, I am gaining/keeping more muscle and a lot less water with PH's then AAS. I'm sure it can even be better on maintaining gains with SARMS.

I'm going to take 3 months off PH's/SARMS before I start a Spring cycle. I'm going to Vegas next April for me and my fiancé's bachelor/bachelorette party for 3 days. My stats are currently 178 lb., 8.5% bf, 5'-10". Usually when I'm not competing, around 190 lb, 12% bf. I'd like to try a SARM stack by mid-February that would add quality size and have less impact on liver, lipids, estrogen conversion, etc. Especially if I want to drink some while I'm out in Vegas and don't want to be coming off any methylated orals. My goals are to add quality size, get lean enough to look good and cut (was thinking of running Alphamine by PES for helping with cardio ad body fat).

Would really like your recommendations on a quality cycle to run and if it is necessary to still run even an OTC PCT after the cycle (remember I'll still be on TRT during and after the cycle).

Tell me your thoughts on this:

TRT Dose (Test Cyp-200mg/week)
Ostarine 10/10/15/15/20/25
LGD4033 8/8/8/12/12/12
Alphamine - before Cardio and pre-workout

I do have RAD140 and GW on hand, would it be helpful to bring in these SARMS for a Triple-Stack? I've ran Ostarine before up to 30mg and loved the gains I had from it. Appreciate the opinions guys!!!

 

[DylanGemelli]

New to the forum but have been working-out/weight training for 12-15 years of my life. I'm going all out for my second and last physique competition this coming November at the Night of Champions in Kansas City. Currently am running an intense PH cycle and going to stack RAD140 with Epistane 6 weeks out from my show day. Curently on Trestolone with Trendione. I'm also on TRT and I've noticed with prohormones vs. AAS, I am gaining/keeping more muscle and a lot less water with PH's then AAS. I'm sure it can even be better on maintaining gains with SARMS.

I'm going to take 3 months off PH's/SARMS before I start a Spring cycle. I'm going to Vegas next April for me and my fiancé's bachelor/bachelorette party for 3 days. My stats are currently 178 lb., 8.5% bf, 5'-10". Usually when I'm not competing, around 190 lb, 12% bf. I'd like to try a SARM stack by mid-February that would add quality size and have less impact on liver, lipids, estrogen conversion, etc. Especially if I want to drink some while I'm out in Vegas and don't want to be coming off any methylated orals. My goals are to add quality size, get lean enough to look good and cut (was thinking of running Alphamine by PES for helping with cardio ad body fat).

Would really like your recommendations on a quality cycle to run and if it is necessary to still run even an OTC PCT after the cycle (remember I'll still be on TRT during and after the cycle).

Tell me your thoughts on this:

TRT Dose (Test Cyp-200mg/week)
Ostarine 10/10/15/15/20/25
LGD4033 8/8/8/12/12/12
Alphamine - before Cardio and pre-workout

I do have RAD140 and GW on hand, would it be helpful to bring in these SARMS for a Triple-Stack? I've ran Ostarine before up to 30mg and loved the gains I had from it. Appreciate the opinions guys!!!

hey bro... your definitely on the right track to an extent... read my article on sarms, proviron and trt anabolic-steroids-f14/trt-cruising-and-bridging-getting-the-most-out-of--t345.html

i have the perfect layout for you... this is exactly what you want for your goals... the sarms super stack is exactly what you want here...


1-12 test cyp 200 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

 

[hardtoget]

Thanks D for the educated response. Couple questions for you:

-S4 @ 50mg/day (25mg split), I'm more hesitant on this SARM in particular due to the receptors in the eye it will attach to and give night vision issues. I already have poor vision and wear contacts, I understand the effects are reversible but is it worth assessing my tolerance starting out at 25mg and slowly dosing up?

-GW dosed at 20mg/day pre-w/o, I tend to workout in the evenings, I'm very sensitive to compounds that will effect sleep quality (taking DMZ a while back gave me terrible sleep disturbances and had to stop taking the PH at 4 in the afternoon. Should I start working out like in the mornings to help with sleeping issues if GW possesses any?

-Proviron at 50mg/day, I really liked this during my AAS cycle days. I don't have any legit sources to use for Proviron could you possibly PM some places to check out that are legit quality? I'm worried about being scammed as I learned the hard way buying AAS gear that was complete bunk before.

-LGD4033 -Would 12mg work instead of 10mg per day?

-Alphamine by PES, is it necessary if using GW and S4 for cutting?

Diet wise, I take it stick to a higher protein, limited fat, moderate carb intake for macros with this cycle? Is it true SARMS increase nitrogen retention in muscles similar to AAS or PH's and make absorbing protein more crucial to gains? Thanks boss.

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: Spring Cycle Advice

Thanks D for the educated response. Couple questions for you:

-S4 @ 50mg/day (25mg split), I'm more hesitant on this SARM in particular due to the receptors in the eye it will attach to and give night vision issues. I already have poor vision and wear contacts, I understand the effects are reversible but is it worth assessing my tolerance starting out at 25mg and slowly dosing up?

-GW dosed at 20mg/day pre-w/o, I tend to workout in the evenings, I'm very sensitive to compounds that will effect sleep quality (taking DMZ a while back gave me terrible sleep disturbances and had to stop taking the PH at 4 in the afternoon. Should I start working out like in the mornings to help with sleeping issues if GW possesses any?

-Proviron at 50mg/day, I really liked this during my AAS cycle days. I don't have any legit sources to use for Proviron could you possibly PM some places to check out that are legit quality? I'm worried about being scammed as I learned the hard way buying AAS gear that was complete bunk before.

-LGD4033 -Would 12mg work instead of 10mg per day?

-Alphamine by PES, is it necessary if using GW and S4 for cutting?

Diet wise, I take it stick to a higher protein, limited fat, moderate carb intake for macros with this cycle? Is it true SARMS increase nitrogen retention in muscles similar to AAS or PH's and make absorbing protein more crucial to gains? Thanks boss.

-Follow Dylan's S4 protocol for dosing and side effects are easily controlled where they are a,non issue.

- GW has no effect on sleep whatsoever. It is not a stimulant in any way, and if anything it will help your sleep since it lowers blood pressure and resting heart rate

- There is no need to ever exceed 10mg of LGD per day. Follow that dose

- SARMS absolutely do increase nitrogen retention and nutrient uptake like AAS. One of their many benefits

- I wouldn't waste my time with Alphamine personally, but if you want to use it anyways that's perfectly fine


If you need a good quality source, I can get you a price list for biotech along with a 10% discount

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks D for the educated response. Couple questions for you:

-S4 @ 50mg/day (25mg split), I'm more hesitant on this SARM in particular due to the receptors in the eye it will attach to and give night vision issues. I already have poor vision and wear contacts, I understand the effects are reversible but is it worth assessing my tolerance starting out at 25mg and slowly dosing up?

-GW dosed at 20mg/day pre-w/o, I tend to workout in the evenings, I'm very sensitive to compounds that will effect sleep quality (taking DMZ a while back gave me terrible sleep disturbances and had to stop taking the PH at 4 in the afternoon. Should I start working out like in the mornings to help with sleeping issues if GW possesses any?

-Proviron at 50mg/day, I really liked this during my AAS cycle days. I don't have any legit sources to use for Proviron could you possibly PM some places to check out that are legit quality? I'm worried about being scammed as I learned the hard way buying AAS gear that was complete bunk before.

-LGD4033 -Would 12mg work instead of 10mg per day?

-Alphamine by PES, is it necessary if using GW and S4 for cutting?

Diet wise, I take it stick to a higher protein, limited fat, moderate carb intake for macros with this cycle? Is it true SARMS increase nitrogen retention in muscles similar to AAS or PH's and make absorbing protein more crucial to gains? Thanks boss.

hey bro... here you go

1. if you follow my s4 dosing protocol then you should be fine... my honest opinion is to just stay at 50 mg longer though and probably throughout... you can start with 25 mg the first week but don't expect too much with that.. you should start with 50 and just assess from there

2. sarms generally help with sleep and gw is non stimulant... ive seen rare instances where it has effected sleep but its not common.. i would try it first and see and if you find it does, then switch to mornings

3. pm rickrock for that

4. that's pointless, stay at 10 mg per day

5. no

6. yes

 

[hardtoget]

Appreciate the advice guys. S4 really does intrigue me, I've ran Winstrol before and it tore up my joints something fierce. Strength gains were ridiculous but I felt like I had arthritis coming off. I'll try out the S4 just to see if it gives me hard earned gains while keeping me lean. For taking 4 compounds with proviron for 12 weeks, I'm surprised liver support isn't really necessary. Just to help clean out your liver as taking any oral will need to bypass the liver a couple times. Any discounts for first time buyers on pure essence SARMS?

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Appreciate the advice guys. S4 really does intrigue me, I've ran Winstrol before and it tore up my joints something fierce. Strength gains were ridiculous but I felt like I had arthritis coming off. I'll try out the S4 just to see if it gives me hard earned gains while keeping me lean. For taking 4 compounds with proviron for 12 weeks, I'm surprised liver support isn't really necessary. Just to help clean out your liver as taking any oral will need to bypass the liver a couple times. Any discounts for first time buyers on pure essence SARMS?

none of the compounds are known to be liver toxic, even Proviron as you may know, is not C17.

but you can still run CEL cycle assist, better to be safe

 

[DylanGemelli]

none of the compounds are known to be liver toxic, even Proviron as you may know, is not C17.

but you can still run CEL cycle assist, better to be safe

there is no methylation whatsoever with sarms brother... that is of no concern for you at all... were you able to take advantage of the sale?