Second Cycle Suggestions

[flynhawaiianz28]

I know I maybe beating a dead horse on this one but I wanted to get the take of guys that have already went down this road before. So back in December '15 through February '16 I completed my first aas cycle. I did 500mg/wk of test C and I went from 170lbs up to 198lbs. I feel like it was an amazing cycle that was super smooth and was really successful. As of today I am still sitting at 194lbs and consider my PCT a success and have continued trying to gain still. At the moment I'm doing a sarms bridge till I am ready to do my next cycle around September. Now I'm already trying to plan ahead and prep so I have everything ready for when the time comes. I'm debating on what to do for my next cycle though. I thought about just doing another 500mg/wk of test c since it went so well last time. Another option would be to do 500mg/wk of test c and stack it with 10mg of LGD-4033. A third option could be doing 500mg/wk of test c and stack another aas with it. As far a suggestions go, please take into consideration that I am sensitive to E and so I'm staying away from compounds that aromatize (yes I know test does) such as dbol, a-drol, etc. Just wanting to get some suggestions on a second solid cycle to run. Thanks!

 

[RickRock]

I know I maybe beating a dead horse on this one but I wanted to get the take of guys that have already went down this road before. So back in December '15 through February '16 I completed my first aas cycle. I did 500mg/wk of test C and I went from 170lbs up to 198lbs. I feel like it was an amazing cycle that was super smooth and was really successful. As of today I am still sitting at 194lbs and consider my PCT a success and have continued trying to gain still. At the moment I'm doing a sarms bridge till I am ready to do my next cycle around September. Now I'm already trying to plan ahead and prep so I have everything ready for when the time comes. I'm debating on what to do for my next cycle though. I thought about just doing another 500mg/wk of test c since it went so well last time. Another option would be to do 500mg/wk of test c and stack it with 10mg of LGD-4033. A third option could be doing 500mg/wk of test c and stack another aas with it. As far a suggestions go, please take into consideration that I am sensitive to E and so I'm staying away from compounds that aromatize (yes I know test does) such as dbol, a-drol, etc. Just wanting to get some suggestions on a second solid cycle to run. Thanks!

Here is my suggestion for your next run brother

1-12 Test C 500mg per week
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg EOD
https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED




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[DylanGemelli]

I know I maybe beating a dead horse on this one but I wanted to get the take of guys that have already went down this road before. So back in December '15 through February '16 I completed my first aas cycle. I did 500mg/wk of test C and I went from 170lbs up to 198lbs. I feel like it was an amazing cycle that was super smooth and was really successful. As of today I am still sitting at 194lbs and consider my PCT a success and have continued trying to gain still. At the moment I'm doing a sarms bridge till I am ready to do my next cycle around September. Now I'm already trying to plan ahead and prep so I have everything ready for when the time comes. I'm debating on what to do for my next cycle though. I thought about just doing another 500mg/wk of test c since it went so well last time. Another option would be to do 500mg/wk of test c and stack it with 10mg of LGD-4033. A third option could be doing 500mg/wk of test c and stack another aas with it. As far a suggestions go, please take into consideration that I am sensitive to E and so I'm staying away from compounds that aromatize (yes I know test does) such as dbol, a-drol, etc. Just wanting to get some suggestions on a second solid cycle to run. Thanks!

hey bro... what exactly are your goals from the cycle?

 

[JackSteel]

LGD would be good and a little mk677... Maybe some GW and SR9009 if you can handle the dosing. EQ is another good one. It aromatizes at half the rate of test


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[DylanGemelli]

LGD would be good and a little mk677... Maybe some GW and SR9009 if you can handle the dosing. EQ is another good one. It aromatizes at half the rate of test


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yes, all of these are excellent options... i definitely agree

 

[buen]

yes, all of these are excellent options... i definitely agree

Test 300-350mg
Deca 200-250mg

Great 2nd cycle

You can use less test due to the synergy with the Deca
Great gains at these levels with less aromatization

 

[flynhawaiianz28]

Thanks for the suggestions! I'm gonna have to look into these! I'm trying to still gain size without all the extra water weight and bloat. I would love to finally be over the 200lb mark for once in my life and more over I really want to shoot for 220lbs or so. Anyone that has done Deca feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm wrong because I am by no means even close to a vet at this stuff I just do a lot of research and reading but a low dose of Deca (stacked with test 300-400mg), say around 200mg/wk or so, is there a need to worry about bloat, deca-dick, and my main concern would be having to deal with gyno as I am E sensitive. I know for a fact that I would run aromasin at 12.5mg/ED if not even higher than that maybe just to be on the safe side.

 

[Bio-Tech]

500mg test worked last time. It will work next time. Choose one new compound to add so that you can isolate what it does to you. try deca. or use an oral kickstart.

 

[TX TERROR]

500mg test worked last time. It will work next time. Choose one new compound to add so that you can isolate what it does to you. try deca. or use an oral kickstart.

Fuck that's what I'm saying. People getting all over complicated and shit these days lol.

 

[flynhawaiianz28]

thanks guys...yeah for me I like to follow the K.I.S.S. rule on a lot of things and even outside of the AAS/weightlifting world. Just trying to decide on deca or EQ this next time if i decide to stack something with the test.

 

[Gymjunkie38]

Bro youve done one cycle and convinced your super e senstive you may be but how did you reach this conclusion bloodwork gyno irritation if its from water and your not super lean Id look more at your diet than esrradial if your eating a ton of simple carbs your gonna bloat I dont care if your running tren . <15. Percent bodyfat and carbs equals water and test aromatises worst of all dbol is next . key is using a aramatse inhibitor and not from one of those buy one get 3 free for 9.95 research chem sites .legit aromisin . but if your really sensitve I would run test prop and npp 100mg of each every other day this would minimize aromitisation and give you some nice gains while staying at a moderate dose of total gear .

 

[flynhawaiianz28]

I'm not calling myself super sensitive but I do know that I am somewhat sensitive. I had a few bouts in the past when I ran PH's (too young and not enough information and a terrible pct) and I had blood work done 3 times just this past cycle (pre, mid, and post) and only towards the end maybe weeks 10-12 did i start getting sensitive. Hopped on a little nolva and upped the aromasin. The nolva was from a source from here and was legit because it definitely worked and the aromasin was from pure essence before it changed hands. Im very pick about where I get my stuff as I hate wasting money and only want quality products and I trust the sources here and here alone. I haven't looked into test prop or NPP yet honestly and I know test prop is a much shorter ester. I have done some research before on short vs long esters and I remember something about long esters tend to keep blood levels more stable than short esters. And i know there is much more details on short vs. long esters as they both have their pros and cons.

 

[RickRock]

thanks guys...yeah for me I like to follow the K.I.S.S. rule on a lot of things and even outside of the AAS/weightlifting world. Just trying to decide on deca or EQ this next time if i decide to stack something with the test.

If you want to add another compound, 200mg Deca would treat you well. Keep it low your first time using it


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[Jake]

Thanks for the suggestions! I'm gonna have to look into these! I'm trying to still gain size without all the extra water weight and bloat. I would love to finally be over the 200lb mark for once in my life and more over I really want to shoot for 220lbs or so. Anyone that has done Deca feel free to chime in and correct me if I'm wrong because I am by no means even close to a vet at this stuff I just do a lot of research and reading but a low dose of Deca (stacked with test 300-400mg), say around 200mg/wk or so, is there a need to worry about bloat, deca-dick, and my main concern would be having to deal with gyno as I am E sensitive. I know for a fact that I would run aromasin at 12.5mg/ED if not even higher than that maybe just to be on the safe side.

Ok first of all you were WRONG doing 500 test as a first cycle. There is no difference between E and cyp, so I doubt you have problems from one and not the other. Second ,deca is way less bloating than test. If you got bloat then you did not use aromasin or not enough of it.

Here is what I suggest for you. Follow the layout rickrock laid down, EXCEPT only 300mg test, and add 200 mg deca. However you say E sensitive and gyno, so deca is a gyno maker but in a different way. So keep the dose 150-200. Now you say bloat and gyno...this tells me that you did not use aromasin at all.

 

[flynhawaiianz28]

How was I wrong doing 500mg/wk of Test Cyp as a first cycle? To some it may be a high dose but it seems pretty standard after all the reading I've done before deciding to do my first cycle at 28 years old. And I used Aromasin throughout the whole cycle and it kept me rather dry and I only had to up the dose towards the end when the nips started to get a little sensitive and threw in a little Nolva as well and that took care of the problem. I used more than enough Aromasin because I upped it enough once my nips got sore to the point where the joints in my knees were hurting from basically being so dry and crushing E, so I backed the dose down just a bit to take care of that. I didn't necassarily get gyno but I could feel it starting to aggravate previous gyno that I had acquired in the past (and yes I nuked the gyno way before ever getting into an AAS cycle) from PH cycles. I'm not sure if you maybe misunderstood one of my previous posts? But I wanted to try and clear that up. When I mentioned bloat I was saying that I basically wanted to stay away from compounds like dbol or adrol is all.

I have been bouncing back and forth between deca and EQ. EQ looks appealing except I would have to run it at the minimum of like 600mg or so for at least 16 to 20 weeks. And deca I could run with the test for like 12 weeks and then carry the test out two weeks beyond that to end the cycle. Such a low dose of deca I don't believe I would have to worry about deca dick or bloat or many sides even. If I ran 300mg of test next time with 150-200mg of deca, would I get much off of that? Mainly my concern is in the test area since that would be 200mg/wk lower than what I ran previously. It's hard to say because everyone reacts differently but I guess I'm curious if I would net better gains from 300mg Test & 150-200mg of Deca compared to the stand alone 500mg/wk of Test. I hope I didn't lose anybody on that post lol

 

[RickRock]

How was I wrong doing 500mg/wk of Test Cyp as a first cycle? To some it may be a high dose but it seems pretty standard after all the reading I've done before deciding to do my first cycle at 28 years old. And I used Aromasin throughout the whole cycle and it kept me rather dry and I only had to up the dose towards the end when the nips started to get a little sensitive and threw in a little Nolva as well and that took care of the problem. I used more than enough Aromasin because I upped it enough once my nips got sore to the point where the joints in my knees were hurting from basically being so dry and crushing E, so I backed the dose down just a bit to take care of that. I didn't necassarily get gyno but I could feel it starting to aggravate previous gyno that I had acquired in the past (and yes I nuked the gyno way before ever getting into an AAS cycle) from PH cycles. I'm not sure if you maybe misunderstood one of my previous posts? But I wanted to try and clear that up. When I mentioned bloat I was saying that I basically wanted to stay away from compounds like dbol or adrol is all.

I have been bouncing back and forth between deca and EQ. EQ looks appealing except I would have to run it at the minimum of like 600mg or so for at least 16 to 20 weeks. And deca I could run with the test for like 12 weeks and then carry the test out two weeks beyond that to end the cycle. Such a low dose of deca I don't believe I would have to worry about deca dick or bloat or many sides even. If I ran 300mg of test next time with 150-200mg of deca, would I get much off of that? Mainly my concern is in the test area since that would be 200mg/wk lower than what I ran previously. It's hard to say because everyone reacts differently but I guess I'm curious if I would net better gains from 300mg Test & 150-200mg of Deca compared to the stand alone 500mg/wk of Test. I hope I didn't lose anybody on that post lol

Let's put it this way brother. I've been on 200 test and 200 Deca for the past 12 weeks and have made substantial gains in size and strength. Don't underestimate what a little Deca can do. It can really do a lot, and you won't need near as much test. Just run about 300mg test with the 200mg Deca and you'll be set for nice consistent lean gains, without the worry of any bad side effects


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[DylanGemelli]

Do yourself a HUGE favor... don't be one of those morons who lives by the "more is better" concept... go ahead an run deca at like 400 mg per week for example and see how much regret you have... as opposed to 150/200 where you can stay dry as fuck, get huge gains and not to deal with the nasty sides... i ran test/deca/primo on my last cruise at 150/150/200 and it was better than ANY blast or full cycle i have ever ran... so if that tells you anything... also had NO sides whatsoever... so that's your choice but the biggest asshole move and mistake is living by more is better with your dosing... and trust me, just as you already ran test at an unnecessary amount, you will learn a far harder lesson with other harsher compounds doing so...