Questions from a curious mind regarding pct

[pootkoot]

Hey there,

Quick question regarding PCT for a test only run. Definitely not an attempt to waste your time as I'm sure you're a busy man.
I'm a 25 year old male, firefighter ( taboo use anyway) , training for 5 years, one natty show under my belt. I'm currently on my first true cycle ( stopped after a week on test cyp a year ago due to a serious injury at work). I'm running Test E ONLY at 300 mg a week hoping to get 10-12 weeks done smoothly. I've done my research and waited for the right time to start it. I have my AI on hand already and was only planning on running Nolva, some high dose zinc and a cortisol inhibitor for PCT for the appropriate time. Not looking to run another cycle anytime soon. Apparently, my Source for nolva says my shit is totally sketchy now. So I'm looking into your liquid version. Would you recommend I alter my PCT protocol? Is Nolva enough? Should I alter dosage on liquid?! . PLEASE REPLY. I'm 3 weeks in already and looking for advice from a reliable outlet. Thanks

 

[EZ_E]

You HAVE TO have PCT on hand before you start. And are you saying you're 3 weeks in and haven't started taking AI?

Stealing this from the man himself;

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[DylanGemelli]

your pct is absolutely horrible bro... also, you need to be using aromasin on cycle the entire time, period...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…








here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...




https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?rou...earch=platinum




clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[RickRock]

Hey there,

Quick question regarding PCT for a test only run. Definitely not an attempt to waste your time as I'm sure you're a busy man.
I'm a 25 year old male, firefighter ( taboo use anyway) , training for 5 years, one natty show under my belt. I'm currently on my first true cycle ( stopped after a week on test cyp a year ago due to a serious injury at work). I'm running Test E ONLY at 300 mg a week hoping to get 10-12 weeks done smoothly. I've done my research and waited for the right time to start it. I have my AI on hand already and was only planning on running Nolva, some high dose zinc and a cortisol inhibitor for PCT for the appropriate time. Not looking to run another cycle anytime soon. Apparently, my Source for nolva says my shit is totally sketchy now. So I'm looking into your liquid version. Would you recommend I alter my PCT protocol? Is Nolva enough? Should I alter dosage on liquid?! . PLEASE REPLY. I'm 3 weeks in already and looking for advice from a reliable outlet. Thanks

An AI on hand is not what you should be doing. You need to be controlling estrogen while on test. Not waiting for symptoms to occur.

Your pct is not even close to correct. This is what it is suppose to be

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[pootkoot]

First of all thanks guys. Second, I guess I should have been more clear. I have GW and MK on hand already. Should have been specific. That was my choice for symptom control and anti cortisol. . and have purchased Liquinolva already just in case my stuff REALLY is bunk as I've been told. I'm not going in totally blind either. But yes I have AI on hand. Haven't used it. Haven't YET hat e related symptoms. Very close family member cycles regularly, and I've CONSTANTLY been told to not jump on AI unless needed. So true or false? Real question was, is nolva enough alone without clomid?

 

[DylanGemelli]

i would not use nolva without clomid or vice versa... not at all, unless we are talking about a mini pct used with sarms but otherwise, i would always use them both

 

[RickRock]

First of all thanks guys. Second, I guess I should have been more clear. I have GW and MK on hand already. Should have been specific. That was my choice for symptom control and anti cortisol. . and have purchased Liquinolva already just in case my stuff REALLY is bunk as I've been told. I'm not going in totally blind either. But yes I have AI on hand. Haven't used it. Haven't YET hat e related symptoms. Very close family member cycles regularly, and I've CONSTANTLY been told to not jump on AI unless needed. So true or false? Real question was, is nolva enough alone without clomid?

I'd use both myself.


Where is your gw and mk2866 from?

 

[pootkoot]

RickRock Sarmsx. Had it for a bit. Did a pro hormone cycle ( mistake and a half but recovered just fine according to bloods) a while back ^^. Doubled up by mistake when I ordered because I'm apparently illiterate and can't read the fucking dosage on the website. . kept the second half. For the next adventure. Lol

 

[pootkoot]

But any advice you guys have would be appreciated. I have one person telling me one thing. I have my personal research into all of it. And I have the forums and guys that have used long enough to know what the hell thwyre talking about for sure. I can get what I need fine I just always looking for advice. I'm already committed and I want to make it a good "first" cycle and want to avoid as much of the long term negativity as I can. As mentioned. It's test e only. On a low end dose. For my size. I can give stats if I have to. Thank you all. And P. S, I understand how these forums work, brand repping aside, ( not accusing) honestly how well will the sarmsx serms I'll be using stack up against pharma grade clomid/Nolva?

 

[EZ_E]

Personally I wouldn't risk not running an AI. Some guys can get away with it, but I'm a better safe than sorry guy.

 

[DylanGemelli]

But any advice you guys have would be appreciated. I have one person telling me one thing. I have my personal research into all of it. And I have the forums and guys that have used long enough to know what the hell thwyre talking about for sure. I can get what I need fine I just always looking for advice. I'm already committed and I want to make it a good "first" cycle and want to avoid as much of the long term negativity as I can. As mentioned. It's test e only. On a low end dose. For my size. I can give stats if I have to. Thank you all. And P. S, I understand how these forums work, brand repping aside, ( not accusing) honestly how well will the sarmsx serms I'll be using stack up against pharma grade clomid/Nolva?

you can run it however you like brother... sarmsx serms stand up next to any pharm grade you have, and i stand by that a million percent... i would not back that if it were not true but thats besides the point... i dont care who you use, you should use both nolva and clomid regardless of what you run... why leave ANYTHING to chance bro? its not like your spending a million dollars on an extra bottle of nolva or clomid... you can run it however you feel comfortable but it would not make a difference where you got it from, my recommendation would not change...

 

[pootkoot]

You guys have no idea how much you eased my mind. Definitely making the order first thing in the morning and gonna start dosing my AI and see where it takes me. Now if you guys wanna chime in on a dumb ass I train with.. occasionally.. a debate if you will. 23. Dude has a real foundation. Little chubby but not very.. decided to take it upon himself to let Mr. sketch at my gym sell him some random ugl test cyp... according to him. Wife discovered and flipped shit. Convinced he's stopping. Has taken 2 pins, he says " almost a cc each over 9 days time.. so not quite 500 mg ?!" How fast are we talking for shut down? Pct for that much??Is he fucked or does his ass just need to put it down and let go ? Smh