Hey all,
Haven't been on for a handful of months due to starting a new job and moving house. Sorry this is long, too.
Just wanted to pop in with my latest experience. Yes, I finally went to the darkside. I've been on TRT for years (I'm 30 at the moment) and have dabbled with most every other compound out there besides Tren. To be honest, I've never really "needed" to use it. Tren is reserved for competitors and guys looking to push the absolute envelope, or at least that was my take on it. I was happy to work and diet harder and use less anabolic and androgenic compounds to rely on for the performance enhancing aspect of gear. And it's nothing to mess with, as we all know. But I've been curious so picked some up for my summer shred.
Anyhoo, I first decided to add a small dose of Tren E to my TRT regimen to see how I would react. I couldn't get my hands on good Ace and the E I have was certified legit and lasts longer being does higher per ml, so I took the plunge and started out small by doing EOD pins to reach around 220mg per week, alongside 200mg per week of Test E TRT and 600mg of EQ I had been loading for a while. Since before Christmas I've been doing EOD pins even on my TRT in smaller doses just to keep the levels as stable as possible, and I feel like it's been working perfectly. I just feel better. Much easier to manage with an EOD Arimidex half life dosing schedule, also. Pin, AI, Pin, AI, etc. But back to the Tren:
Even on this 1:1 ratio of Test and Tren. Hole. E. Shite. This stuff is absolutely INCREDIBLE. Blows every other compound and then some I've ever ran out of the water even at 220mg. Stacked with EQ to begin with, I was literally indestructible. I felt like Superman. The wellbeing feeling of EQ got turned up to 11 and strength in the gym just came out of absolutely nowhere. It changed my whole view on training and even dieting. Strangely I could eat shitter foods and get leaner and feel better. More fatty meats. Eating a lot of carbs - even clean ones - became the devil and would make me look and actually feel worse. I had to switch to a high fat and low carb style diet. I don't know how Tren's nutrition partitioning works, but it didn't work well with my chicken and heaps of rice, pasta and potatos diet.
After a few weeks I then bumped up both the Tren and Test, still utilizing the 1:1 ratio that had been working famously while I dropped the EQ. I was around 300mg of each, before I lowered the Test back to 250 and upped the Tren to 400. I didn't notice much of a difference with more Test besides wasting it, as it's so weak in comparison that shovelling extra in there just raises the risk of aromatization due to AR's being filled by Tren more often. And I did have to increase my AI dose to 1mg EOD instead of 0.50mg mainly judged by morning wood, not bloat or gyno. Caber was at 0.25mg twice a week, then upped to 0.50mg E3D @ 400mg. At the moment I'm out of Caber and using natural Prolactin supps and even these seem to be doing just fine. I could have honestly got by at 0.50mg once a week but better to be safe than sorry.
Tren at 400mg is game over territory. It's literally unfair and cheating. Body changes by the day. I was sitting right on 10% to begin with and am now well under while putting on size and not losing any scale weight numbers. Diet could be thrown out the window if you wanted to and you'd still look tighter and more pumped than most anything else. At 700mg's this stuff must be insane. I have no need nor desire to go any higher however.
My traps exploded and I stopped hitting them to focus more on my chest as to not look out of balance. It's not often you have to worry about getting TOO big in this hobby. But this is the true reality of Tren. Every where I go guys keep checking me out for size now. Unfortunately zero more interest from the ladies - funny how that works. LMAO. In-fact I feel as if being that loaded with such androgenic capacity has turned more women OFF or intimidated them.
And by far and away the strangest part of all this to me? This has been largely side effect free even at that highest dose which is more than enough for some serious recomp. I'll take a stab that by using a long ester like E EOD in smaller doses, it's remaining stable enough not to cause anything awry, and it seems I'm just one of those folks who gets along famously with Tren. I have no desire to try ace seeing as enanthate has done me so well.
It has made me feel utterly incredible. The androgenic euphoria is unlike anything I have ever experienced. A deep pit in the stomach feeling of contentment is all I can describe it as. I've just felt so good.
We've had 46C degree days here in Sydney Aus, and NO extra night sweating at all unless you eat a shitload of carbs before bed (or anytime it seems) and even then it's not excessive. It does give hot flushes though after sugar and carbs as mentioned.
NO insomnia. If anything Arimidex and/or Caber can give worse insomnia like a lot of other meds. I had a bit of trouble sleeping mainly due to the summer heat I believe but after a week I was good to go.
NO funky dreams.
NO problems in bed.
NO constant anger.
NO anxiety.
NO breathing problems.
NO bad tren cough.
Now not ALL that glitters is gold, and while I said largely side effect free - certainly not completely so. You don't run Tren and get off scott free in any case, it seems. Here's what HAS occured:
HAVE had a rage quit. I'm so calm and easy going so I brush off anger with nonchalance. One day it was all too easy after a long day and a foul mood from work to just lose it at my female roomy, so being so full of gung ho hormones, that's what I did (threw something of hers across the room after asking her not to use it multiple times). This isn't me. I could have controlled it if I wanted to, but it must have been the Tren talking that said 'screw it' and it was just easier to let loose. Traffic also can spur on anger more easily, but that's easy enough to stay cool with. It just seems to frustrate me more.
HAVE had tren cough, per se. Now, ANY oil can give you a cough if you nick yourself. It's just that Tren for some reason can do it more severely. And it's always from injecting WAY WAY WAAAAY too fast. I always take the better part of a minute to pin ANYTHING and on the one occasion I was in a hurry, just like with other compounds, I felt it coming on. Tickle in my throat. Took a few deep breaths and still got the "windy lungs" feeling as I call it, which lasts for a few hours. Had a bit of a throat clear style coughs for about 5 seconds. But that's it. Just like any other oil can do to you. No floor spasm or anything crazy. I've lost count of the number of times I've nicked myself with Tren but because I've gone slow, zero problems with the cough. I've had a "test cough" worse than that tren cough before for chrissake. You nick yourself and funnel in any oil super fast, you're gonna have a bad time.
HAVE had negative cardio. But again, let me explain. Not so much from Tren, but from stopping EQ and losing all that hematocrit goodness. I would recommend and I will in the future, always run EQ with Tren to increase that wellbeing and cardio. At the start when I was on both I was mint. But after dropping the EQ and going back to my normal oxygen carrying capacity, it does feel harder to get deep breaths when you are REALLY exerting yourself. AND also you lose a bit of that well being and sex drive feeling as well. I didn't have the time to get any GW before NY but still interested to stack that and S4 with this.
HAVE had negative thoughts. This one is actually annoying. It's not anxiety per-se, but it's sort of a counter-weight to the feel good confidence of Tren. It seems to exacerbate Bi-Polar tendencies. In normal mode I swing between feeling really good and feeling pretty average at the flick of a switch. And Tren certainly makes me feel VERY good, but also pretty shit. I've heard people get odd thoughts about their significant others etc, and being single, it's given me a strange version of that.
Example - I asked this chick for her number the other day and she declined. Normally I would be like, ok cool, your loss and move on. Tren-me was so cut up about it I kept thinking about it for about a week or two just trying to make sense of it. And it made me feel like shit. Seems like Tren increases your confidence and good thoughts, but also your insecurities and weaknesses / negative thoughts for me. I can see how this can make people depressed.
HAVE had insatiable sex thoughts. Not accompanied by an increase in wood frequency or anything, just the thoughts are mentally there. It's weird. There's a divorced 40 or 50 something woman in HR who is barely a MILF on a good day. And I still look at even her and think of all the sordid things I'd do.
HAVE had crappy vascularity. I'm disappointed about this actually. Tren and EQ was veins on shoulders spec'. After dropping EQ, Tren's ability to make vascularity anywhere but in my pants is pretty piss poor for me. I can get more roadmaps by double dosing L Citrulline and Pomegranate BCAA's.
HAVE had cramps. Bloody neck cramps are killing my life! Luckily I massage them away as soon as I get them. And calf cramps as well. Those pumps be the devil.
Haven't been on for a handful of months due to starting a new job and moving house. Sorry this is long, too.
Just wanted to pop in with my latest experience. Yes, I finally went to the darkside. I've been on TRT for years (I'm 30 at the moment) and have dabbled with most every other compound out there besides Tren. To be honest, I've never really "needed" to use it. Tren is reserved for competitors and guys looking to push the absolute envelope, or at least that was my take on it. I was happy to work and diet harder and use less anabolic and androgenic compounds to rely on for the performance enhancing aspect of gear. And it's nothing to mess with, as we all know. But I've been curious so picked some up for my summer shred.
Anyhoo, I first decided to add a small dose of Tren E to my TRT regimen to see how I would react. I couldn't get my hands on good Ace and the E I have was certified legit and lasts longer being does higher per ml, so I took the plunge and started out small by doing EOD pins to reach around 220mg per week, alongside 200mg per week of Test E TRT and 600mg of EQ I had been loading for a while. Since before Christmas I've been doing EOD pins even on my TRT in smaller doses just to keep the levels as stable as possible, and I feel like it's been working perfectly. I just feel better. Much easier to manage with an EOD Arimidex half life dosing schedule, also. Pin, AI, Pin, AI, etc. But back to the Tren:
Even on this 1:1 ratio of Test and Tren. Hole. E. Shite. This stuff is absolutely INCREDIBLE. Blows every other compound and then some I've ever ran out of the water even at 220mg. Stacked with EQ to begin with, I was literally indestructible. I felt like Superman. The wellbeing feeling of EQ got turned up to 11 and strength in the gym just came out of absolutely nowhere. It changed my whole view on training and even dieting. Strangely I could eat shitter foods and get leaner and feel better. More fatty meats. Eating a lot of carbs - even clean ones - became the devil and would make me look and actually feel worse. I had to switch to a high fat and low carb style diet. I don't know how Tren's nutrition partitioning works, but it didn't work well with my chicken and heaps of rice, pasta and potatos diet.
After a few weeks I then bumped up both the Tren and Test, still utilizing the 1:1 ratio that had been working famously while I dropped the EQ. I was around 300mg of each, before I lowered the Test back to 250 and upped the Tren to 400. I didn't notice much of a difference with more Test besides wasting it, as it's so weak in comparison that shovelling extra in there just raises the risk of aromatization due to AR's being filled by Tren more often. And I did have to increase my AI dose to 1mg EOD instead of 0.50mg mainly judged by morning wood, not bloat or gyno. Caber was at 0.25mg twice a week, then upped to 0.50mg E3D @ 400mg. At the moment I'm out of Caber and using natural Prolactin supps and even these seem to be doing just fine. I could have honestly got by at 0.50mg once a week but better to be safe than sorry.
Tren at 400mg is game over territory. It's literally unfair and cheating. Body changes by the day. I was sitting right on 10% to begin with and am now well under while putting on size and not losing any scale weight numbers. Diet could be thrown out the window if you wanted to and you'd still look tighter and more pumped than most anything else. At 700mg's this stuff must be insane. I have no need nor desire to go any higher however.
My traps exploded and I stopped hitting them to focus more on my chest as to not look out of balance. It's not often you have to worry about getting TOO big in this hobby. But this is the true reality of Tren. Every where I go guys keep checking me out for size now. Unfortunately zero more interest from the ladies - funny how that works. LMAO. In-fact I feel as if being that loaded with such androgenic capacity has turned more women OFF or intimidated them.
And by far and away the strangest part of all this to me? This has been largely side effect free even at that highest dose which is more than enough for some serious recomp. I'll take a stab that by using a long ester like E EOD in smaller doses, it's remaining stable enough not to cause anything awry, and it seems I'm just one of those folks who gets along famously with Tren. I have no desire to try ace seeing as enanthate has done me so well.
It has made me feel utterly incredible. The androgenic euphoria is unlike anything I have ever experienced. A deep pit in the stomach feeling of contentment is all I can describe it as. I've just felt so good.
We've had 46C degree days here in Sydney Aus, and NO extra night sweating at all unless you eat a shitload of carbs before bed (or anytime it seems) and even then it's not excessive. It does give hot flushes though after sugar and carbs as mentioned.
NO insomnia. If anything Arimidex and/or Caber can give worse insomnia like a lot of other meds. I had a bit of trouble sleeping mainly due to the summer heat I believe but after a week I was good to go.
NO funky dreams.
NO problems in bed.
NO constant anger.
NO anxiety.
NO breathing problems.
NO bad tren cough.
Now not ALL that glitters is gold, and while I said largely side effect free - certainly not completely so. You don't run Tren and get off scott free in any case, it seems. Here's what HAS occured:
HAVE had a rage quit. I'm so calm and easy going so I brush off anger with nonchalance. One day it was all too easy after a long day and a foul mood from work to just lose it at my female roomy, so being so full of gung ho hormones, that's what I did (threw something of hers across the room after asking her not to use it multiple times). This isn't me. I could have controlled it if I wanted to, but it must have been the Tren talking that said 'screw it' and it was just easier to let loose. Traffic also can spur on anger more easily, but that's easy enough to stay cool with. It just seems to frustrate me more.
HAVE had tren cough, per se. Now, ANY oil can give you a cough if you nick yourself. It's just that Tren for some reason can do it more severely. And it's always from injecting WAY WAY WAAAAY too fast. I always take the better part of a minute to pin ANYTHING and on the one occasion I was in a hurry, just like with other compounds, I felt it coming on. Tickle in my throat. Took a few deep breaths and still got the "windy lungs" feeling as I call it, which lasts for a few hours. Had a bit of a throat clear style coughs for about 5 seconds. But that's it. Just like any other oil can do to you. No floor spasm or anything crazy. I've lost count of the number of times I've nicked myself with Tren but because I've gone slow, zero problems with the cough. I've had a "test cough" worse than that tren cough before for chrissake. You nick yourself and funnel in any oil super fast, you're gonna have a bad time.
HAVE had negative cardio. But again, let me explain. Not so much from Tren, but from stopping EQ and losing all that hematocrit goodness. I would recommend and I will in the future, always run EQ with Tren to increase that wellbeing and cardio. At the start when I was on both I was mint. But after dropping the EQ and going back to my normal oxygen carrying capacity, it does feel harder to get deep breaths when you are REALLY exerting yourself. AND also you lose a bit of that well being and sex drive feeling as well. I didn't have the time to get any GW before NY but still interested to stack that and S4 with this.
HAVE had negative thoughts. This one is actually annoying. It's not anxiety per-se, but it's sort of a counter-weight to the feel good confidence of Tren. It seems to exacerbate Bi-Polar tendencies. In normal mode I swing between feeling really good and feeling pretty average at the flick of a switch. And Tren certainly makes me feel VERY good, but also pretty shit. I've heard people get odd thoughts about their significant others etc, and being single, it's given me a strange version of that.
Example - I asked this chick for her number the other day and she declined. Normally I would be like, ok cool, your loss and move on. Tren-me was so cut up about it I kept thinking about it for about a week or two just trying to make sense of it. And it made me feel like shit. Seems like Tren increases your confidence and good thoughts, but also your insecurities and weaknesses / negative thoughts for me. I can see how this can make people depressed.
HAVE had insatiable sex thoughts. Not accompanied by an increase in wood frequency or anything, just the thoughts are mentally there. It's weird. There's a divorced 40 or 50 something woman in HR who is barely a MILF on a good day. And I still look at even her and think of all the sordid things I'd do.
HAVE had crappy vascularity. I'm disappointed about this actually. Tren and EQ was veins on shoulders spec'. After dropping EQ, Tren's ability to make vascularity anywhere but in my pants is pretty piss poor for me. I can get more roadmaps by double dosing L Citrulline and Pomegranate BCAA's.
HAVE had cramps. Bloody neck cramps are killing my life! Luckily I massage them away as soon as I get them. And calf cramps as well. Those pumps be the devil.
