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Laxogenin + 11oxo stack

benb404

benb404

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Hi all, new here, quickly scanned through 'the rules' and done a search and there is nothing for stacking these two. And I've bought them both so now worried they are not worth stacking together if no-ones mentioned it before... I've also got some left over ostarine (swear by the stuff (y) )

Age - 27
Height - 6ft
Weight - 76kg
Body fat 17% (Ectomorph and hold the majority of it around my core)
Years of training (3-4)

Complete cycle history
- Epistane stack with ostarine twice - loaded osta for 2 weeks before adding epi for 5 weeks. PCT was German Phamas Testaflex, Clomodex, DAA, Vita D3 and ZMA.
- GW and ostarine 7 weeks, PCT was DAA, D3 and ZMA

Goals - Fat loss (Honeymoon in mid-May) ;)
Supplements (Per day - Cod Liver x 4, Multi vit and min x 1, Glucosamine, chondroitin & MSM x 2, vita D3 x 1, ZMA x 1)
General idea of nutrition (Intermittent Fasting 14-16 hours I find it helps me limit my calories - eating 1700 cals a day - try for 170g protein, 150g carbs, 45g fat - rely on food, one small protein shake a day post work out with dextrose)
Any other relevant info (currently on a rest week - slightly injured neck pressing, doesn't concern me)

So back to my query, I have German Pharmas episterone (11oxo), will be doing 100mg 3 times a day, 7am, 1pm, 7pm. Hoping this will help manage cortisol levels and reduce fat around my core.
Stacked with BPS Androcrine (laxogenin) 80mg a day - 2 sprays 7am, 2 sprays pre workout. Currently considering having this start with my 11oxo on week 1, but also have it lead 4 weeks into PCT, quite unsure though.

I may stack ostarine as I find it so mild yet effective for me, I love the strength gains and joint support I get from it.
I use Excel everytime to manage and plan cycles, here is a snapshot of what I have:
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Thanks in advance
 
Where did you get the ostarine? Ive used the Laxogenin before but not in a transdermal. Id be weary of anything that wasnt in oral form. I wouldn't expect anything spectacular either.
 
Hi both, thanks for the replies.

I was surprised that it was transdermal if im honest, didn't even know that existed for PEDs. I'm not expecting anything amazing at all, just assistance, i'm more concerned that it could have any counter affects on 11oxo and ostarine. More than happy to leave it a draw and run it alone another time or PCT if recommended.

I'm in the UK so I buy all mine from UK based companies (other than the laxogenin, $25 a pop was crazy cheap to not experiment with, even with postage).
The ostarine is from JWsupplements (Osta elite), 25mg per cap. I normally go through pro-hormones .co.uk, i really trust them. But I thought I would try JW because they had 15mg more per cap for the same amount of caps (90) for a similar price. But I have the sneaky suspicion they are not as high quality (didn't feel strength gains or joint support as much). And so after my last cycle I have 44 spare Ostarine that I might as well use.
 
SdBronco said:
Where did you get the ostarine? Ive used the Laxogenin before but not in a transdermal. Id be weary of anything that wasnt in oral form. I wouldn't expect anything spectacular either.
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Do you not think it coudl be safer but less effective? Avoids the liver, kidneys, etc. Straight to the blood stream? IF, that's how it works...
 
RickRock said:
Sorry, no experience with them brother.....but I wouldn't expect much at all
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fair enough, no worries. I cant see one countering the other so will run them both, they are mild. See what happens, any drawbacks I really don't like I will stop early and PCT. meh.
 
11 oxo is pretty worthless... just dont expect much from it... you are correct, its very mild but its all very weak... trust me.. ive used it, ive seen it in other compounds etc... i would never waste my time and money on it period
 
benb404 said:
Do you not think it coudl be safer but less effective? Avoids the liver, kidneys, etc. Straight to the blood stream? IF, that's how it works...
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It doesnt effect those aspects of your health because its not a real steroid. Like others have said it might do something but i wouldnt expect much at all. Ive used it once while running a few other things and it didnt stand out at all. Might have given some benefit but it was almost indistinguishable from placebo. I bought into a lot of this stuff back when prohormones were still legal and i basically felt like i wasted my time.
 
I get these are weak and I won't be disheartened at the end of the cycle. My mind set is purely cutting, and if these help me cut more even slightly then so be it. But I'll learn and use something stronger and worth the money going forward. Luckily at the minute I'm still seeing progress by just monitoring my food intake and not using SARMS or PHs.

I am aware of LGD and it's the next one I'm going to start doing research into see if it will fit into my goals.
 
I know when I posted this, people had very little faith in this stack. All the products I mentioned are considered mild so little was expected. And I couldn't completely see why.

I still have another 2 weeks on the stack (and from wednesday I increase my 11oxo from 300mg to 400mg a day, and from last Monday I've increased my laxogenin from 80mg to 120mg a day), and I must have miscalculated how many Ostarine caps I had left as I'll be a week short on that. But overall, I've lost what I consider a lot of fat around my core (my primary goal). I've always struggled with that area but I'm starting to see my abs for the first time in over 10 years, and because of that now starting to enjoy training them in the past week. I've gone from 76kg to 73.7kg, and my bicep size is still the same (so don't think I've lost any muscle, maybe gained).

I've even had family and friends comment on how slim my waist is in the past few days, which has never happened since training. I'm still not where I want to be (yet), but I'm happy with the progress I've had so far which I think is important.

After the 2 weeks, if I remember I will upload a before and after pic. And hopefully this thread can be used by other on these products.
 
So, just less than 8 weeks.
1700 cals, 170g/150g/45g P/C/F some days a few of my cals were less. But on a few occassions i did cheat admittedly.
So happy with the results.

Majority of my Meals and supplements in a day

7am
25mg Ostarine, 100mg 11oxo, 50mg laxo, 2cod liver

11am
Wholemeal sandwich - ham and cheese (not great, swap for tuna and olive oil half way through)
Gluco, chron, msm x 2. Multi vit. Bcaas

2pm
Chicken, veg, light curry sauce.
100mg 11oxo, 2 cod liver

4pm
Gym

6pm
Post workout shake + 20g dextrose + bcaas + bicarb
50mg laxo

6-8pm
Sweet potato mash, chicken, veg, gravy
100mg 11oxo, 2 cod, vitamin d3, ZMA

7-8pm snacks
Cupa tea - 2-3 sugars
Maybe a small late shake with skimmed milk to bump protein

Towards the end, included CLA, and increased 11oxo and laxo to use up the last of it

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