Is this normal

[ibleedoranbla]

So, I have started my last week on tbol and I'm coming to the end of week 4 on test e. I'm also taking 75mg of proviron and I was doing 15mg aromasin on Mon, Wed, and Friday. This week I lowered the aromasin to 15mg on Monday and Thursdays. I have experienced basically no gains so far from this cycle and by no gains I mean I feel as though I have been on nothing. I can handle the no gains part because I feel it might still be too early to really notice any effects yet. The biggest problem is, I just don't feel right. My head is not into it, I have no motivation, I'm always pissed off just about everyday and by pissed off I'm not talking about "roid rage" here but just overall aggregated by just about everything. Today I have been tired all day and my whole body is just aching. I did chest and triceps last night and to say my workout was frustrating would be putting it lightly. I regressed from the week before as far as weights go and I had zero intensity. This is just not what I had on mind for my first cycle feeling like. Is something going wrong here or is this normal and I just need to be more patient? Pretty soon if the lack of gains don't change in really going to have a hard time keeping my head in the game.

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[JM750]

Is your source legit? I would think 4 weeks on real tbol you should feel and see results.
Do you have any blood work to compare? 4 weeks on test is not a lot

 

[cbbram00]

I just barely started feeling my test at week 4... Is this your first cycle?

JM is right... Bloods will be your answer...

 

[ibleedoranbla]

Re: RE: Re: Is this normal

Is your source legit? I would think 4 weeks on real tbol you should feel and see results.
Do you have any blood work to compare? 4 weeks on test is not a lot

I'm on my 6th week on tbol. My tbol came from hipo. I have gotten body composition changes, only slight changes but I have gotten small gains on that regards. As far as strength goes, I have gotten absolutely nothing. I have pre bloods and plan on doing mid for bloods in 2-3 more weeks. I know 4 weeks on test isn't anything but I figured I would have felt something by now, even if only a heightened sense of well being, when in fact it has been the opposite.

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[PHURIOUS]

How many days are you training right now?


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[ibleedoranbla]

Re: RE: Re: Is this normal

How many days are you training right now?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

Right now 4. I was doing 5 days until 2 weeks ago when I moved, that kinda screwed with my schedule for a week and I haven't worked back up to 5 days yet.

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[PHURIOUS]

You could maybe be feeling a big of over training? I know when i over train i dont see as much change and mentally lose the focus and motivation


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[Rydrdie]

Re: RE: Re: Is this normal

How many days are you training right now?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

Right now 4. I was doing 5 days until 2 weeks ago when I moved, that kinda screwed with my schedule for a week and I haven't worked back up to 5 days yet.

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How are u spacing your tbol doses? I didn't notice much until week 3- n that week I started taking 30mg pre workout n a total of 70 mg per day. Morning 20, pre workout 30, pre bedtime 20. Also your estrogen levels could be too low. U might want to hold off on the asin for at least a few days. And bloods- just to confirm your test and E levels are in order

 

[cmb5017]

Let me ask u this. Are u getting acne on ur back and ass? Is ur dick hard ed? Are u growing hair in places no hair has grown before? If no I would say u got bunk gear

 

[ibleedoranbla]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Is this normal

How many days are you training right now?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

Right now 4. I was doing 5 days until 2 weeks ago when I moved, that kinda screwed with my schedule for a week and I haven't worked back up to 5 days yet.

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How are u spacing your tbol doses? I didn't notice much until week 3- n that week I started taking 30mg pre workout n a total of 70 mg per day. Morning 20, pre workout 30, pre bedtime 20. Also your estrogen levels could be too low. U might want to hold off on the asin for at least a few days. And bloods- just to confirm your test and E levels are in order

I'm doing 50mg am and then 12 hours later preworkout another 50mg. I went the first 2 weeks at 60mg, then another 2 weeks at 80mg and now the final 2 weeks at 100mg. I'm planning on getting bloods done in about 2 weeks. My first thought was too low on my estrogen, so that's why I decreed my aromasin dose.

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[PHURIOUS]

Yes if you knock your estro too low you will feel all the things ypu are feeling but even when u back the aromasin down it takes a little time for your estro to raise back


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[ibleedoranbla]

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Let me ask u this. Are u getting acne on ur back and ass? Is ur dick hard ed? Are u growing hair in places no hair has grown before? If no I would say u got bunk gear

No acne on my face or ass but I have had small amounts of random acne pop up on my chest and shoulders but it is very small and hardly noticeable. Ice never really been one to get acne. I haven't had any problems in the hard on department. I had one today for about 6 hours that I thought was going to explode. I have had a small ache on my testicles that started about 2 weeks ago and I noticed today that the boys were not just shrunken bit they were gone. As far as hair goes, I'm already fairly hairy but I've noticed that my hair is growing faster and thicker.

Too be honest I feel like I'm completely shutdown, which is obviously not a shocker as I should be. I just thought that with injecting test you're not supposed to "feel" shutdown. I'm going to give it until week 6 and get bloods before I call it bunk. It's from psl and from what I know everyone is always satisfied with psl.

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[PHURIOUS]

Are all the products hippo stuff? Where did u get the test e


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[ibleedoranbla]

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Are all the products hippo stuff? Where did u get the test e


PHURIOUS PHARMA

The test e is Euro pharmacies. I bought before this forum was created or I would have bought from one of you fine folks.

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[PHURIOUS]

Hmm it could be under dosed. Cause you shudnt feel shit down at all


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[PHURIOUS]

Shut down


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[ibleedoranbla]

I probably shouldn't say shut down, considering I really don't know what that's like. It's just what I would imaging it to feel like, lack of motivation, no gains, tired, body aching. All these could just be signs of low e too. I just lowered my aromasin dose, so I'll give it a couple more weeks until I get too worried. It's just hard not to let this frustration get to be because this isn't what I was expecting at all.

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[PHURIOUS]

Lol. What u described is like being shut down. And high estro. Id say back your masin off and get bloods. I would be willing to bet your test numbers will be shit


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[Rydrdie]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Is this normal

How many days are you training right now?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

Right now 4. I was doing 5 days until 2 weeks ago when I moved, that kinda screwed with my schedule for a week and I haven't worked back up to 5 days yet.

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How are u spacing your tbol doses? I didn't notice much until week 3- n that week I started taking 30mg pre workout n a total of 70 mg per day. Morning 20, pre workout 30, pre bedtime 20. Also your estrogen levels could be too low. U might want to hold off on the asin for at least a few days. And bloods- just to confirm your test and E levels are in order

I'm doing 50mg am and then 12 hours later preworkout another 50mg. I went the first 2 weeks at 60mg, then another 2 weeks at 80mg and now the final 2 weeks at 100mg. I'm planning on getting bloods done in about 2 weeks. My first thought was too low on my estrogen, so that's why I decreed my aromasin dose.

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At 50mg pre workout you are not getting extra energy, strength, or recovery bw sets? Hmmmm- idk; I'm def a fan of Hipo n I doubt his gear is shit. What test brand are you running? I would think the test you are running isn't good and or your estrogen levels are too low. You might wanna get that bloodwork done sooner. I know people say 6 weeks, but your levels should def be where there should be w good test after 4

 

[Rydrdie]

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Is this normal

How many days are you training right now?


PHURIOUS PHARMA

Right now 4. I was doing 5 days until 2 weeks ago when I moved, that kinda screwed with my schedule for a week and I haven't worked back up to 5 days yet.

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How are u spacing your tbol doses? I didn't notice much until week 3- n that week I started taking 30mg pre workout n a total of 70 mg per day. Morning 20, pre workout 30, pre bedtime 20. Also your estrogen levels could be too low. U might want to hold off on the asin for at least a few days. And bloods- just to confirm your test and E levels are in order

I'm doing 50mg am and then 12 hours later preworkout another 50mg. I went the first 2 weeks at 60mg, then another 2 weeks at 80mg and now the final 2 weeks at 100mg. I'm planning on getting bloods done in about 2 weeks. My first thought was too low on my estrogen, so that's why I decreed my aromasin dose.

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At 50mg pre workout you are not getting extra energy, strength, or recovery bw sets? Hmmmm- idk; I'm def a fan of Hipo n I doubt his gear is shit. What test brand are you running? I would think the test you are running isn't good and or your estrogen levels are too low. You might wanna get that bloodwork done sooner. I know people say 6 weeks, but your levels should def be where there should be w good test after 4

Just went back n saw the previous posts. If you got the EP test from PSL it's def your estrogen. PSL is g2g. I used their test on my last cycle. I hear a lot of people getting shut down w aromasin. I've never used aromasin, just adex. But, it seems like starting w a lower dose n then adjusting if you are retaining water would be the way to go w that stuff.