I need Help please With my Deca Cycle ...

[RasAlGhul]

Greetings Lads ... am on a Deca 400MG/Week Test Cyp 500/Week for 12 Weeks
Using Dostinex e2d and Arimidex>eod

I Just wanna know how to prevent estrogen Rebound after i Quit the Adex ! ... and when to stop taking that AI
Secondly i will stop deca at week 10 and extend the test for 2 weeks till 12 ... is that Quite good or not ?
thirdly i will start using the HCG on week 8>12 then am going to stop it is that good or not ?
fourth i wanna know when to start the pct from the last test Cyp Shot ... and how long it will extend
... finally : can i take Clomid only or should i take nolvadex with it !? ... and i heard about that the nolva may cause some adverse effects related to the Progesterone/Estrogen Regulation when it is used with deca specially is it true !? and should i extend the AI in the pct or not ?!

i am fine until now no side effects appeared ... am taking 0.5 mg Adex eod should i increase or decrease or something during the cycle ...am seriously afraid from the estrogen rebound related to it and i've heared that many people may catch a gyno while in pct or maybe after

Another Question : i wanna start a Tren Cycle after ... i know the deca is a long ester so how long should i stay away from gear before i start another hormonal cycle to be completely safe and to allow the HPTA to recover properly

thanks in advance <3

 

[96ish]

What are your full stats? Can't help before we get them mate

 

[RasAlGhul]

well i don't know what do stats mean but i guess as follows
20 Old , 1st Cycle and i know that was not good to start deca on the 1st cycle but shit happens ... and i know its prefered not to start hormonal replacements before 25 old for the HPTA Safety but i did unfortunately
am 176lb , 1.73 M Tall
am on my 7th Week now on the Cycle
training 6 days a week

 

[Flanex]

well i don't know what do stats mean but i guess as follows
20 Old , 1st Cycle and i know that was not good to start deca on the 1st cycle but shit happens ... and i know its prefered not to start hormonal replacements before 25 old for the HPTA Safety but i did unfortunately
am 176lb , 1.73 M Tall
am on my 7th Week now on the Cycle
training 6 days a week

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[Daveb8573]

well i don't know what do stats mean but i guess as follows
20 Old , 1st Cycle and i know that was not good to start deca on the 1st cycle but shit happens ... and i know its prefered not to start hormonal replacements before 25 old for the HPTA Safety but i did unfortunately
am 176lb , 1.73 M Tall
am on my 7th Week now on the Cycle
training 6 days a week

Bro you're going to regret the path you're on. I'm 43 and was natty for the first 20 years of my training. Guys I trained with back in the 90's are not in good shape health wise these days. They took the path you are on and now some of them are a mess! If you are not lazy and have discipline you can make huge gainz at 20yo! You're endo system is not even done developing yet for fuck sakes! I hope you wake up before you do permanent damage! With all due respect you're being reckless bro. My kids are your age and I am just trying to help. You have plenty of time for drugs but why not get the most out of your naturally high hormones? Are you going to be competing soon? If the answer is no please put the shit down until your endo system is done maturing. Twenty years goes by so fast man. How do you want to live when you get older? It happens fast.


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[EZ_E]

well i don't know what do stats mean but i guess as follows
20 Old , 1st Cycle and i know that was not good to start deca on the 1st cycle but shit happens ... and i know its prefered not to start hormonal replacements before 25 old for the HPTA Safety but i did unfortunately
am 176lb , 1.73 M Tall
am on my 7th Week now on the Cycle
training 6 days a week

"Shit happens?"

Buying test & deca a nd injecting into your body "just happened?"

And now you're 7 weeks into this train wreck and you're asking questions that should have been asked LONG before you started, this type of reckless behavior is why AAS has a bad name.

You are on a path to some serious damage to your body....you need to stop this cycle RIGHT now and stat a PCT, which I'm guessing you don't have ready.

And you need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???)
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)

Be honest; don't write what you think we want to hear.

 

[44YOGearHead]

Let me say this about your situation and please take this as constructive criticism bro. At 20 although considered an adult legally, your body is still a fledgling. You have so much untapped potential that you could grow like a weed naturally. To start screwing with your hormones so early is in all actuality cheating yourself outta growth. 20 years from now when you tire of AAS, or can no longer take them for health reasons and your body looks like you never touched a weight because you never took the time to build a base frame you'll see exactly what we're talking about.

 

[RickRock]

How far into the cycle are you? You really need to stop this madness man. You are way too young to be using steroids at all, and you are using test and deca on a first cycle?? Where is your prolactin protection?

You just need to stop man asap before you really screw yourself up. This is a complete mess. I highly suggest coming off and starting this pct two weeks after last injection

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[RasAlGhul]

well well i've got it ... thanks alot ... sounds like i have to start the pct now
thanks again for your help all ... and i think there is no need for my stats anyway since am 20 Old ... so its over anyway i will start my PCT and i hope i can cure this shit
but it seems like i've done a permanent damage to my endo system and the HPTA ... is it right ?! according to your answers ... and if not ... is there a solid chance to recover back ?!
Thx again Flanex,Daveb,RickRock,44YoGearHead,Ez_E

 

[Flanex]

well well i've got it ... thanks alot ... sounds like i have to start the pct now
thanks again for your help all ... and i think there is no need for my stats anyway since am 20 Old ... so its over anyway i will start my PCT and i hope i can cure this shit
but it seems like i've done a permanent damage to my endo system and the HPTA ... is it right ?! according to your answers ... and if not ... is there a solid chance to recover back ?!
Thx again Flanex,Daveb,RickRock,44YoGearHead,Ez_E

I wouldn't necessarily say you've done permanent damage.Is it possible?Yes,but you're 20 years old.You'd be surprised what your body can bounce back from at that age.It's only been 7 weeks too.I'd just follow Rick's PCT down to the letter & cross your fingers.I was clueless too when I was 18-22 & pinned massive amounts of Test with no AI or PCT to be heard of.I've been on TRT for the past 7 years most likely because of that.Don't get discouraged.You may still be safe.

 

[EZ_E]

well well i've got it ... thanks alot ... sounds like i have to start the pct now
thanks again for your help all ... and i think there is no need for my stats anyway since am 20 Old ... so its over anyway i will start my PCT and i hope i can cure this shit
but it seems like i've done a permanent damage to my endo system and the HPTA ... is it right ?! according to your answers ... and if not ... is there a solid chance to recover back ?!
Thx again Flanex,Daveb,RickRock,44YoGearHead,Ez_E

Thank YOU for listening and keeping an open mind, that's a class move.

You should recover. Had you stayed on the AAS track then who knows. But a solid PCT (see Rick's post) and you should be OK.

 

[Flanex]

Thank YOU for listening and keeping an open mind, that's a class move.

You should recover. Had you stayed on the AAS track then who knows. But a solid PCT (see Rick's post) and you should be OK.

Do you think an extended PCT would be in order here EZ,or no because it was only 7 weeks?

 

[EZ_E]

Do you think an extended PCT would be in order here EZ,or no because it was only 7 weeks?

Not a bad idea, but I'll hand off to Rick on that one....he's more knowledgeable on PCT.

 

[RickRock]

Do you think an extended PCT would be in order here EZ,or no because it was only 7 weeks?

With the pct I laid out he should be fine considering he wasn't on an excessive amount of time, so I would recommend just running the layout I proposed and doing bloodwork afterwards to ensure proper recovery was made

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[Guarionex]

With the pct I laid out he should be fine considering he wasn't on an excessive amount of time, so I would recommend just running the layout I proposed and doing bloodwork afterwards to ensure proper recovery was made

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Bloodwork is a must in this case. I would recommend a second bloodwork two months after to make sure stable blood values.

Best of luck

 

[RasAlGhul]

Thx alot guys i really appreciate that

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Bro I am not feeling this at all. First of all you are too young and this is your first cycle? Why would you start taking gear and then ask questions about what you need for pct or protection while on cycle? Come on man. You need to prepare that before you start. You are setting yourself up for failure. I am 29. 6,5" 245. And your first cycle is bigger then my last "bulk" cycle. What does that tell you? This is not smart bro. And you can Forget about tren completely.