First SARMs Post

[smcc]

Hi all

I have spent about 4 months looking into my cycle and obviously have gained a lot of information from this forum and the youtube channel. I have placed my order and am about to kick off my first cycle.

I am 42 and have been lifting since 18, I have used so many crap so called wonder "supplements" but never done any real cycle. I am 16% BF and lift using the Dorian Yates training approach of HIT 6-8 rep range heavy to failure. I train 4 days a week and run on off days. Diet is ok my issue has been drinking too much beer so since Dec I have been off and wont touch any during my cycle.

I am planning the following

LGD-4033 - 10mg per day AM
S-4 - 50mg per day (split dose am and pm)

PCT
Clomid, 100mgs every day for 1 week, then 50mgs every day for 2 weeks, followed by 1 week at 25mgs every day.
Nolvadex, 40mgs every day for 1 week, then 20mgs every day for 2 weeks, followed by 1 week at 10mgs every day.

Ostarine 20mg every day for 4 weeks.

Cardarine (GW-50156) 20mg every day for 4 weeks. (30-min 1 hour before workout on those days)


I then want to go 1-2months free and maybe just use something like HCGenerate ES just to try to keep test levels high to keep whatever gains I have.

Depending on how all this goes I may look to start another cycle but not sure really what to do after this. I am mainly focused on strength increase with mass gain. What would be your advice and also with cycles are there longer term effects if cycling/PCT/Cycling/PCT etc.

Thanks for any advice/critique

 

[jp1957]

Degenerate it's junk.

Also, you don't need to run osta during a sarms pct.

Personally,I run it during any cycle, also gw

 

[smcc]

I was going by Dylans recommendation that at 4 weeks Osta wont result in suppression and can help against catabolism during PCT. I read a whole lot of good and bad stuff about HCG , its natural ingredients so will give it a go I stupidly just bought it anyway

thanks for your reply, its greatly appreciated

 

[turbo-d]

20mg of ostarine can for sure lead to suppression or even hinder your body to recover as fast as possible during pct.
even 3mg has proven to be slighly supressive in some individuals....

 

[smcc]

Wow... ok I need to read some more, I will drop it to be safe, can use it in another cycle. thanks

 

[turbo-d]

Wow... ok I need to read some more, I will drop it to be safe, can use it in another cycle. thanks

most people are doing a PCT after an ostarine cycle so i think its counterproductive to include such a dose of ostarine in a PCT!

 

[DylanGemelli]

25 mg per day at 4 weeks WILL NOT cause suppression unless your not using sarms... i THINK ive seen enough bloodwork over the last 5 years to justify that so that is COMPLETELY incorrect

 

[DylanGemelli]

I truly wish comments would not be made on subjects that are not known by the people making the comments..

 

[DylanGemelli]

it beings to show BLOODWORK suppression after 6 weeks... period... the suppression seen at 12 weeks is minimal at best... LGD is the one sarm that has given people more suppression issues, NOT mk2866 whatsoever

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hi all

I have spent about 4 months looking into my cycle and obviously have gained a lot of information from this forum and the youtube channel. I have placed my order and am about to kick off my first cycle.

I am 42 and have been lifting since 18, I have used so many crap so called wonder "supplements" but never done any real cycle. I am 16% BF and lift using the Dorian Yates training approach of HIT 6-8 rep range heavy to failure. I train 4 days a week and run on off days. Diet is ok my issue has been drinking too much beer so since Dec I have been off and wont touch any during my cycle.

I am planning the following

LGD-4033 - 10mg per day AM
S-4 - 50mg per day (split dose am and pm)

PCT
Clomid, 100mgs every day for 1 week, then 50mgs every day for 2 weeks, followed by 1 week at 25mgs every day.
Nolvadex, 40mgs every day for 1 week, then 20mgs every day for 2 weeks, followed by 1 week at 10mgs every day.

Ostarine 20mg every day for 4 weeks.

Cardarine (GW-50156) 20mg every day for 4 weeks. (30-min 1 hour before workout on those days)


I then want to go 1-2months free and maybe just use something like HCGenerate ES just to try to keep test levels high to keep whatever gains I have.

Depending on how all this goes I may look to start another cycle but not sure really what to do after this. I am mainly focused on strength increase with mass gain. What would be your advice and also with cycles are there longer term effects if cycling/PCT/Cycling/PCT etc.

Thanks for any advice/critique

s4 is going to be your best option for strength gain and lgd for mass gain... you have picked the BEST sarms duo combination you can run... I am all for that cycle... its literally one of the best, even with just two compounds... you CAN use mk2866 in your pct but its not necessary here but if you want to, you absolutely can... here are the links for everything you need followed by the layout... im not including 2866 here but if you want to, you absolutely can use it in pct... ive only used it in pct since it was released to the general public... I THINK i have an idea how it works... call me crazy but i think i may have some insight there...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-lgd-4033

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-s4-andarine

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini



1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[smcc]

Dylan, much appreciate the detailed responses will definitely tweak my cycle based on recommendations.

Thanks to all

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan, much appreciate the detailed responses will definitely tweak my cycle based on recommendations.

Thanks to all

anytime brother, im happy to help! let me know anytime you have further questions!