Feedback/Advice on my planned bulk cycle please.

[DL_00]

Hey guys, so I'm getting ready for a serious bulk cycle, where my goal is to make some serious "lean" gains. It will be my 3rd anabolic cycle. I have not been on cycle in about a year, although I did a couple of sarms cycles this past year. During a previous bulk cycle of test/eq, I think I overdid it on the diet, tried to gain too much weight too fast, and ended up gaining about 30 lbs although quite a bit of it was fat. I'm trying to put together a better bulking cycle this time and keep the diet in check for slower but cleaner gains. This is basically what I have planned so far...

400 mg Test E/week
400 mg Deca/week
30 mg Dbol/day (at least to start with)
100 mcg GHRP-6 3x/day
300 mcg PEG MGF on rest days
12.5 mg Aromasin EOD

And I have my clomid, nolva, and hcg for post cycle.

So I guess my question is, is there anything you guys would change, or add? Would adding in a specific sarm like rad-140 or GW be of major benefit? So to throw some quick stats out there im 35, been training since a teenager, 5'11" and currently about 180 lbs in single-digit bf% Coming off a cut and have all the above-mentioned ready to go. Ah what the hell, I'll throw a photo up too. Thanks for any input!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey guys, so I'm getting ready for a serious bulk cycle, where my goal is to make some serious "lean" gains. It will be my 3rd anabolic cycle. I have not been on cycle in about a year, although I did a couple of sarms cycles this past year. During a previous bulk cycle of test/eq, I think I overdid it on the diet, tried to gain too much weight too fast, and ended up gaining about 30 lbs although quite a bit of it was fat. I'm trying to put together a better bulking cycle this time and keep the diet in check for slower but cleaner gains. This is basically what I have planned so far...

400 mg Test E/week
400 mg Deca/week
30 mg Dbol/day (at least to start with)
100 mcg GHRP-6 3x/day
300 mcg PEG MGF on rest days
12.5 mg Aromasin EOD

And I have my clomid, nolva, and hcg for post cycle.

So I guess my question is, is there anything you guys would change, or add? Would adding in a specific sarm like rad-140 or GW be of major benefit? So to throw some quick stats out there im 35, been training since a teenager, 5'11" and currently about 180 lbs in single-digit bf% Coming off a cut and have all the above-mentioned ready to go. Ah what the hell, I'll throw a photo up too. Thanks for any input!

if you want a cleaner bulking cycle, i would drop dbol and add tbol along with lgd and rad... you will see dbol like results without the side effects... then just add gw in there for the ultra performance enhancement and fat control bro.. that would be perfect for what your wanting to acccomplish...

 

[DL_00]

if you want a cleaner bulking cycle, i would drop dbol and add tbol along with lgd and rad... you will see dbol like results without the side effects... then just add gw in there for the ultra performance enhancement and fat control bro.. that would be perfect for what your wanting to acccomplish...

Thanks bro. I will definitely consider that. So you would run the tbol as a kickstart same as the dbol, like first 4-6 weeks?

 

[RickRock]

Thanks bro. I will definitely consider that. So you would run the tbol as a kickstart same as the dbol, like first 4-6 weeks?

Yes that is correct. In place of Dbol, Run the tbol at 60mg per day the first 6 weeks

This would be my recommendation

1-12 Test C or E 400mg per week
1-12 Deca 400mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 caber 0.5mg E3D
1-6 Tbol 60mg per day
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.


11-14 HCG 500iu twice per week

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks bro. I will definitely consider that. So you would run the tbol as a kickstart same as the dbol, like first 4-6 weeks?

here bro, i'll make it very easy for you so you can see it exactly how it should be ran... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout.. also bro, you NEVER and i mean NEVER use hcg in pct... you could not make a larger mistake bro...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-off-gw-501516

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-lgd-4033

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-testolone-rad-140

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133

1-12 test cyp 400 mg week
1-12 deca 400 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 caber .5 mg e3d
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[EZ_E]

Finally, someone who's already in shape who's planning a cycle for the right reasons.

 

[DylanGemelli]

let me know if you have any other questions bro

 

[DL_00]

let me know if you have any other questions bro

Thank you for your help. I guess I was lazy in my opening post; I wasn't actually planning on running hcg with the pct, but rather at the end of my cycle before pct.

I was really excited to try dbol for the first time, but taking the advice here, I think I'll go with what you guys suggested. I'll have to procure the tbol and sarms, and then I cannot wait to start!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you for your help. I guess I was lazy in my opening post; I wasn't actually planning on running hcg with the pct, but rather at the end of my cycle before pct.

I was really excited to try dbol for the first time, but taking the advice here, I think I'll go with what you guys suggested. I'll have to procure the tbol and sarms, and then I cannot wait to start!

awesome bro, i figured you knew better than that but i had to make sure... trust me bro, the way i laid it out for you, you will be a million time happier with how it turns out bro

 

[DL_00]

One more question. I just started this cycle, using the sarms and tbol like you suggested as opposed to dbol. Would you recommend front-loading the Test and/or Deca the first week, or not necessary? In the past, with long esters, I usually front-loaded, but with tbol and the sarms I don't know if it would be advised or not. Thanks!

let me know if you have any other questions bro

 

[EZ_E]

One more question. I just started this cycle, using the sarms and tbol like you suggested as opposed to dbol. Would you recommend front-loading the Test and/or Deca the first week, or not necessary? In the past, with long esters, I usually front-loaded, but with tbol and the sarms I don't know if it would be advised or not. Thanks!

Front loading is total bro science bossman

 

[DL_00]

Front loading is total bro science bossman

Would you care to elaborate? It seems only logical that front-loading would achieve the goal of getting more of the compound into your system quicker as opposed to a slower progression over time. Just trying to understand.

 

[DylanGemelli]

It’s not unusual, when not frontloading (taking a calculated, especially high dose on the first day), for results to be minimal or difficult to detect in the first couple of weeks and even to some degree into the third week. This is particularly so with especially long-acting esters.
Another factor is that rate of muscle gain isn’t as high when starting from a higher level. I’m assuming that this cycle isn’t having you start at the same level of muscle as your first cycle did.
Some drugs have relatively long half-lives, this being a measure of how quickly the drug leaves the system.
When such a drug is being used, then the amount in the system at any given time is not only that resulting from the dose just taken, but also a further amount that is remaining from previous doses.
So, using a steroid cycle as an example, suppose someone is dosing 100 mg/day of a steroid which has a half-life of one week, and over the long term this is giving him the levels he wants.
Once well into his cycle, after any given injection he will have in his system not only the 100 mg that he just injected, but another 700 mg (one half-life’s worth) remaining from previous injections.
So clearly, if on Day 1 all he does is inject 100 mg, he won’t have nearly the levels that his cycle, over time, will eventually produce. He would need to inject 800 mg to be in a comparable place.
Frontloading is the practice where a calculated larger injection amount is used on Day 1 to promptly bring levels to the same value that they would eventually stabilize at.
The amount to use is the amount that is on average taken in one half-life of the drug, plus the injection amount that will ordinarily be used.
So for another example, let’s say someone is planning on using 600 mg/week of test e, taken as 200 mg three times per week.
If figuring the half-life at 5 days, then on average the amount taken per half-life (per 5 days) is 5/7 of the 600 mg. That works out to an average of 429 mg taken per 5 days.
So the frontload amount is that amount, plus the usual ongoing amount of 200 mg.
If being highly exact this would work out as 629 mg, but as 600 mg is a more convenient figure, this would be more than close enough. There’s no problem in rounding the number a little.
So on Day 1 the injection would be 600 mg. This would not produce unusually high levels, but instead would promptly get levels to where they need to be.
If not frontloading but just doing the 200 mg 3x/week schedule, even at the end of two weeks levels would still be building. Only by the 3 week point (approximately) would they be nearly to their steady-state value — the value where they will or would eventually stabilize.
EQ has a particularly long half-life and so if there is no frontload, it takes even longer for levels to build. This is why many say that it takes 6 weeks, or some similar figure, for it to anything.
Actually the boldenone is capable of contributing well by the end of the first week, if the levels are there, but in the situations being referred to levels are not there due to lack of frontload.