Doing a FULL blood workup, testing EVERYTHING relevant...please help.

[mrolson]

It's kind of hard to tell the doctors that "hey, I am on steroids, could you please tell me what blood work would be a good fit for me?" Thats why I am asking you guys for advice. I want to know everything. My testosterone levels so that that I can be sure the stuff I am taking works, free testosterone levels, my estrogen levels, prolactine levels, Shbg levels, cholesterol, prostate, liver status etc etc, simply EVERYTHING thats relative to steroid use.

I dont know the medical names of these tests so please help me. I am sure that there are a lot of other people that are interested in the same thing.


Also, another question. If I inject 200mg test cypionate e2d, what should my testo levels be if its the real deal?

Thanks!

 

[rockmfhudd]

female hormone panel should cover it. however I don't know if a doc will run that on you. most of us use privatemdlabs.com u just go in yourself and pay like 54 bucks and they get the results to you

 

[rockmfhudd]

http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/female-hormone-testing.php

the one that is 66 bucks and I should be getting a coupon code for 15% off soon

 

[chelades]

Tell them everything you want. Androgens, Haematology, Lipids, Ferrin/Iron, Thyroid etc. They won't expect you to know every test panel - most doc's don't even realize themselves all the different panels they can pull.

Why would you pin such a long ester so regularly? The whole point is to minimize injections and let it steadily build. You could get away with Cyp once a week, but would more ideally do twice a week.

How many MG a week do you actually plan on using?

It depends how your body reacts to androgens. 200mg weekly could put a guy at high normal 1200ng/dl, or another guy 2200ng/dl, or another guy at 3000ng/dl.

 

[rockmfhudd]

ya shit I just saw that you are pinning so your test is probably over 1500 so you need the mc/ls test which is 99 bucks so about 86 or so with the discount. or tell the doc you want an uncapped test pulled but he is gonna know if you are over 1500 something is going on.

 

[chelades]

That's the thing, if you're not honest there's a chance it'll just show >1,200 "out of range".

If you're actually already doing 200mg E2d (800mg a week, which is a shit tonne), you should be seeing at least 4,000ng/dl unless you have garbage test or some pretty resilient androgen resistance.

 

[mrolson]

Thanks for the answers guys, but what I am looking for is a list of all the tests I should do, nothing more. I live in China and they will do any test you want here, no questions asked, as long as you are willing to pay for it, and its not very expensive either.

So, what I need to know is what tests to tell them I want to do to cover all grounds.

 

[rockmfhudd]

Complete Blood Count (CBC) with Differential: (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes)
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): (A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.)
Cortisol, serum
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate
Estradiol
Follicle-stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
hCG Beta Subunit, Quantitative, Serum
Hemoglobin (Hgb) A1c
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)
Lipid Profile: Cholesterol, total; high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol; low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (calculation); triglycerides; very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol (calculation).
Sex Hormone binding Globulin, Serum
Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
Thyroxine Free (FT4)
Tri-iodothyronine Free (FT3)
Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy

 

[mrolson]

Complete Blood Count (CBC) with Differential: (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes)
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): (A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.)
Cortisol, serum
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate
Estradiol
Follicle-stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
hCG Beta Subunit, Quantitative, Serum
Hemoglobin (Hgb) A1c
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)
Lipid Profile: Cholesterol, total; high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol; low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (calculation); triglycerides; very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol (calculation).
Sex Hormone binding Globulin, Serum
Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
Thyroxine Free (FT4)
Tri-iodothyronine Free (FT3)
Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy

I love you!

 

[rockmfhudd]

love you too bro now bring the results back so we can assess wtf is goin good or bad for you lol

 

[RickRock]

In simple terms just say you want a full blood panel and full hormone panel.

That's as easy as it gets

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[mrolson]

love you too bro now bring the results back so we can assess wtf is goin good or bad for you lol

Will do. Gonna have to translate all this to Chinese which will take a little time but at least now I know what to ask for.

 

[DylanGemelli]

rick told you exactly how to make it easy on yourself... full hormonal panel is all you need to say... its quite simple if you get asked as to "why"... its none of their fucking business why... you just simply say because "you want to, thats why" and if thats not enough, GO TO A DIFFERENT DOCTOR... this is not some sort of interrogation process etc... this is YOUR health and YOUR desire to check this bloodwork

 

[mrolson]

Hy Dylan, love you videos! Things are a little bit different in China and I dont trust for 1 second that their "full hormonal panel" includes all the things it does at western hospital. Your best bet here is to be extremely detailed and tell them EXACTLY what you want. You dont want to leave anything unsaid, otherwise you are going to have to deal with doctors telling you that you dont need this or that blabla. Could you please skim through rockmfhudd's list and see if there is anything you would add?

Complete Blood Count (CBC) with Differential: (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes)
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): (A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.)
Cortisol, serum
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate
Estradiol
Follicle-stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
hCG Beta Subunit, Quantitative, Serum
Hemoglobin (Hgb) A1c
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)
Lipid Profile: Cholesterol, total; high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol; low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (calculation); triglycerides; very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol (calculation).
Sex Hormone binding Globulin, Serum
Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
Thyroxine Free (FT4)
Tri-iodothyronine Free (FT3)
Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy

 

[mrolson]

Set to do the test tomorrow. One of the reasons is that i want to check if my t is the real deal. Should i inject 200mg cypionate the night before the test or the same morning ?

 

[rockmfhudd]

you should have done it 24-28 hours before the test and it depends on how long you been on it as well. it takes a while for the long esther cyp to saturate the bloodstream

 

[RickRock]

Hy Dylan, love you videos! Things are a little bit different in China and I dont trust for 1 second that their "full hormonal panel" includes all the things it does at western hospital. Your best bet here is to be extremely detailed and tell them EXACTLY what you want. You dont want to leave anything unsaid, otherwise you are going to have to deal with doctors telling you that you dont need this or that blabla. Could you please skim through rockmfhudd's list and see if there is anything you would add?

Complete Blood Count (CBC) with Differential: (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes)
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP) (includes eGFR): (A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.)
Cortisol, serum
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) Sulfate
Estradiol
Follicle-stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
hCG Beta Subunit, Quantitative, Serum
Hemoglobin (Hgb) A1c
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-I)
Lipid Profile: Cholesterol, total; high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol; low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol (calculation); triglycerides; very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL) cholesterol (calculation).
Sex Hormone binding Globulin, Serum
Testosterone, Free (Direct) With Total Testosterone, LC/MS-MS
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH)
Thyroxine Free (FT4)
Tri-iodothyronine Free (FT3)
Vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy

That looks like a good extensive list to me that pretty much covers it all


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[RickRock]

Set to do the test tomorrow. One of the reasons is that i want to check if my t is the real deal. Should i inject 200mg cypionate the night before the test or the same morning ?

A minimum of 24 hours before the test, but I think 48-72 hours is probably best for cypionate


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[mrolson]

A minimum of 24 hours before the test, but I think 48-72 hours is probably best for cypionate


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I took 200mg test cypo yesterday which will be pretty much exactly 48 hours before the test tomorrow. So, if my shit is real, my test levels should be through the roof, right?

 

[mrolson]

Ok, did the test today and I dont got all the details yet, but I got whats most important to me, testosterone and this made me WORRIED!

I got 57nmol/L (1154ng/dl) I have been injecting 200mg testo cypo every other day for the last 10 days or so, so I was under the impressions that my levels would be at least twice as high. Does this mean that I am injecting watered out testosterone?

I will post all results here later (as soon as they are available).

Also, my Creatine phosphokinase (CPK) was WAY of the chart. The normal is (26-174) and I got 1268. Is this a good thing?