Cycles without Test, why?

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Hi there guys!
There is a question that bothers me, I don't understand why there are guru's that recommend cycles without Test.
Let's say something simple, like Win/Primo/Deca. There are people that don't add Test as the basic ingredient (I don't want to call it Compound, since "everything else" is a compound, but Test is the base)
Am I wrong on this? are there cases where you don't need Test?
Am curious because now am hesitating about a concept that's a cornerstone on my mind.
Thanks a lot for your commets guys

 

[IND]

Test always as a base. Anyone that understands how the body and AAS works knows that you need a small amount of test in every cycle you run

 

[bodean30]

Primo is about the only one you can get away with running solo. Even then why would you want to?
Any "guru" that advises a cycle without a test base clearly doesn't know shit.

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[Gymjunkie38]

There is one good reason too run a cycle without test . because your female and wish too stay relatively close too female as possible no other reason . I mean for competing you will usually cut test a week out but prop takes 5 days or so too fully clear so there is only a day or two with very low test levels right before the show just too get super hard and grainy . but that's it

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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

There is one good reason too run a cycle without test . because your female and wish too stay relatively close too female as possible no other reason . I mean for competing you will usually cut test a week out but prop takes 5 days or so too fully clear so there is only a day or two with very low test levels right before the show just too get super hard and grainy . but that's it

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LOL ! thats a very valid reason why someone would not need to run any test on a cycle.

 

[DylanGemelli]

you can attempt to run a cycle without test but keep this in mind... all steroids suppress you, yes but if you run without test, then you are going into pct completely bottomed out... if you use test, you are going into pct with a huge elevation in test levels... you then re teach your body how to produce it on its own and while it will drop in the process, it wont be near zero... you are not working from the ground floor up... if you go in bottomed out, you will take so much longer to recover and you will never keep your gains... you will feel like brutal shit and hate life.. so you can try it and see if the so called "guru" is right but don't be surprised when its the worst possible scenario you could imagine...

 

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People, am so thankful!!! Train and gains its a subject I care about since am 15 and I am 56 now. That's to say how much I love this subject. The variety of answers, points of view, all so so respectful here in this forum is amazing.
Whatever discussion I read, there is always something to learn. Some tip to catch. I have to say a big Thanks to you all. And Dylan, I do appreciate so mucho you work my friend, always so concious and so freaking moderated. Wow. Thanks again guys!!!

 

[RickRock]

Running cycles without test can lead to a lot of problems, like decreased sex drive, no erections, lethargy, low sense of well being, depression, etc.

Testosterone should be the base to any steroid cycle

 

[DylanGemelli]

People, am so thankful!!! Train and gains its a subject I care about since am 15 and I am 56 now. That's to say how much I love this subject. The variety of answers, points of view, all so so respectful here in this forum is amazing.
Whatever discussion I read, there is always something to learn. Some tip to catch. I have to say a big Thanks to you all. And Dylan, I do appreciate so mucho you work my friend, always so concious and so freaking moderated. Wow. Thanks again guys!!!

awesome bro! im happy to help and im glad you asked first before you did something regretful... im always here to help if you need me bro!