Cycle Advice

[flicterdoct]

Hey dylan, I've been keeping up with you for a while on YouTube. Thank you for all that you do, it's helped me plan and have a successful 2nd cycle. I've now planned my 3rd one. And I want you to give me your input and guidance. Here's what I have so far.

Sustanon 300mg/wk for 1-12 wks
Tren Ace 75-100mg/eod for 1-8 wks
Winstrol 50mg/ed 9-12 wks
Aromasin 12.5mg/eod 1-12 wks
Dostinex .25mg/every 3rd day wks 1-8

 

[EZ_E]

Post your full stats.

 

[DylanGemelli]

thats impossible for me to answer when you literally give me nothing to work with... i dont know your cycle history, your goals?????????? your workout history? stats??? age/height/weight/body fat... you cannot expect any sort of valid answer when you give me nothing to work with...

 

[flicterdoct]

Age: 24
Height:6'0"
Weight: 180 lbs
Bf% around 10

1st cycle was 400mg/wk of test cypionate for 10 wks
2nd cycle was Test E 500mg/wk for 12 wks
Deca 300mg wk for 10 wks
D-bol 30 mg/wk for 4 weeks

Been training since September 1st 2014

 

[cmb5017]

2 years training n working on 3rd cycle? .......

 

[RickRock]

Age: 24
Height:6'0"
Weight: 180 lbs
Bf% around 10

1st cycle was 400mg/wk of test cypionate for 10 wks
2nd cycle was Test E 500mg/wk for 12 wks
Deca 300mg wk for 10 wks
D-bol 30 mg/wk for 4 weeks

Been training since September 1st 2014

Bro you are too young for steroids....let alone Tren. You need totaled a step back. And you are on your third cycle?? You are not on a very good path to success

 

[flicterdoct]

I stay pretty lean year round. My body controls estrogen very well. Never had any gyno flair up or symptoms. I took aromasin 12.5 mg EOD on 2nd cycle and never had any estrogen or prolactin issues. Never had to touch my Caber. So I'm thinking .25mg every 3rd day instead of 0.5mg of Caber should do the trick.

 

[BraedenB]

Your layout isn't the issue here, the issue is you went about this so wrong,
1. Took steroids at too young of an age, some will say otherwise but here at this forum we stick to some pretty strict guidelines for optimal health and longevity, sure you could run steroids before 25 but then you have higher chances of issues. Best to play it safe

2. You did not setup a solid foundation naturally before you started steroids so now you have this immature muscle that your body wasn't even ready to handle, nor is it healthy to build muscle that quickly before setting up a base as you put too much stress too fast on your ligaments and joints.

You'll probably get some tough love from the forum but it's because we don't want you to fuck yourself up

 

[flicterdoct]

I understand, that's what I want. Yes, I did start a little young. But I didn't jump on gear. And I did build a solid foundation of muscle naturally, went from 140-165. I eat healthy, I bust ass in the gym, and I do tons of research. I even have a doctor keeping up with bloodwork. So I am trying to do this the safest way possible. I started gear April of 2016.

 

[EZ_E]

I understand, that's what I want. Yes, I did start a little young. But I didn't jump on gear. And I did build a solid foundation of muscle naturally, went from 140-165. I eat healthy, I bust ass in the gym, and I do tons of research. I even have a doctor keeping up with bloodwork. So I am trying to do this the safest way possible. I started gear April of 2016.

You started your 1st cycle in April of 2016??? And less than a year later you're already planning a 3rd cycle?

And you've only been training since 2014.

Not gonna get much love here brotha....and I have to disagree that you built a SUFFICIENT foundation before you started juice.

 

[flicterdoct]

I didn't ask y'all to be my mother. I just simply wanted opinions on my layout. Thanks anyway.

 

[RickRock]

I didn't ask y'all to be my mother. I just simply wanted opinions on my layout. Thanks anyway.

You wanted advice....you got it bro. We keep it real here

 

[EZ_E]

Another crybaby. How do we attract so many?

 

[DylanGemelli]

I didn't ask y'all to be my mother. I just simply wanted opinions on my layout. Thanks anyway.

so essentially, you only came to hear what you WANT to hear as opposed to what you NEED to hear... so with that mentality, dont expect to get anywhere in life... you can find any jerk off to tell you what to do and go continue to hurt yourself or you can come here and get the right advice to improve the quality of your life and ensure you avoid what you are ABSOLUTELY GOING TO ENDURE... so instead of being a child, why not be a man and understand people are attempting to help you.. im certainly not wasting time on someone like you who does not appreciate that... there are so many people needing help and advice and you spit in peoples' face that try to help you because your little feeling got hurt and you want to hear what you want to hear... good luck to you

 

[MaxxPursuit]

I didn't ask y'all to be my mother. I just simply wanted opinions on my layout. Thanks anyway.

No one is being your "mother". You can do what you want man. You asked for an opinion. If I told you "hey I'm building a shed in my backyard... but I'm just going to put it up without a foundation". If you tell me that it's a stupid idea because the shed won't last without a foundation, are you being my "mother"? No. The guys here just tell it like it is. You jumped the gun a little too early. Should have spent more time honing your training and nutrition. You seem to be moving at a fast pace with the cycles leading me to believe you're not taking the proper time off. It's too soon for tren. Simple.

 

[DylanGemelli]

No one is being your "mother". You can do what you want man. You asked for an opinion. If I told you "hey I'm building a shed in my backyard... but I'm just going to put it up without a foundation". If you tell me that it's a stupid idea because the shed won't last without a foundation, are you being my "mother"? No. The guys here just tell it like it is. You jumped the gun a little too early. Should have spent more time honing your training and nutrition. You seem to be moving at a fast pace with the cycles leading me to believe you're not taking the proper time off. It's too soon for tren. Simple.

well said brother, as usual! essentially it boils down to this... "if you dont tell me what i want to hear then dont say anything at all" I will never understand that rationale

 

[flicterdoct]

Nobody's feelings is hurt. I'm "planning" for a future tren cycle. I know I'm not ready for Tren yet. And I really appreciate y'all being real. I like preparing way ahead of time. I am serious about my health. Since I'm not ready, what do yall think I should do for 2017? Should I just plan on competeing in 2018? Because I really don't wanna take advice from a broscience prep coach.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Nobody's feelings is hurt. I'm "planning" for a future tren cycle. I know I'm not ready for Tren yet. And I really appreciate y'all being real. I like preparing way ahead of time. I am serious about my health. Since I'm not ready, what do yall think I should do for 2017? Should I just plan on competeing in 2018? Because I really don't wanna take advice from a broscience prep coach.

thats by far the wisest thing you have said.. here's the thing... im going to help you make yourself FAR better here bro... thats all my intentions every are with all of you, is to improve everything you do in every aspect... the first thing is, although i LOVE long term thinking, this is a situation that does not apply... you need to focus on the NOW... i will be here for you to help you with your future cycles bro, count on that so that is no concern but the focus needs to be on NOW... otherwise you never do or get what you should out of your cycle... im telling you this as someone that cares, not some fucking dick fuck that could care less about your long term health... you are too young right now for steroids man... you do what you want... im not your dad but i am someone that KNOWS what he is talking about and whether you believe it or not, someone that cares about you.. i would not use steroids for another few years man... you have sarms that you can definitely use but im telling you, using steroids this young, you are going to live a long life of regret bro... i deal with it everyday with all the emails i get... you dont understand what i see on a daily basis.. thats why i stress this so much... you do as you will but if you want my help, i can help you do this right

 

[EZ_E]

Nobody's feelings is hurt. I'm "planning" for a future tren cycle. I know I'm not ready for Tren yet. And I really appreciate y'all being real. I like preparing way ahead of time. I am serious about my health. Since I'm not ready, what do yall think I should do for 2017? Should I just plan on competeing in 2018? Because I really don't wanna take advice from a broscience prep coach.

That's the open mindedness that will get you far around here.

You can aim for a show in 2017. If you shoot for a show @ the end of the NPC season (October/November) you'd probably want to aim for a 12-16 week prep, so you have between now and July to grow.

But if you have to push a show to 2018, no be it.

In any event you will need a prep coach. The hard part is finding a qualified one.

 

[DylanGemelli]

just let me know brother and im happy to help you