Hi guys,
new to forum but have searched high and low everywhere online for anybody that can offer some sound advice on a relatively little know topic - I have Cutis Verticus Gyrata which is basically convoluted ripples on my scalp (mainly left and rear side) that resemble the outline of the shape of a brain. I have secondary CVG meaning it is not a preexisting genetic condition but rather from hormonal changes.
It first started when I was in Australia years ago. I was on a low dose of Reandrol for low testosterone prescribed by my urologist - every 2 then 3 months. I have also been on a controlled dose of Thyroxine for hypothyroidism.
I was also on antidepressants and anti anxiety meds. I was overweight and at one point I began a health kick involving cardio gradually increasing and then incorporating gym workouts (i had been into natural body building for many years prior to when I stopped training for about 4 years).
As my fitness improved I turned to peptides which a peptide clinic in Australia prescribed to me. I started on CJC-1295 & Ipamorelin on the highest recommended doses. I later incorporated SARMS Forte. It is during this time that I noticed the first sign of CVG - a single ripple line along left side of scalp. I asked the peptide hormone doctor and he stated that it is rare but can occur from the peptides I was on and said that if I stopped it would return to normal.
It did not. I stopped for a few months and later when my gym workouts were getting even more intense I decided to then start on an anabolic cycle. I went on a cycle of Deca and Sustanol with testosterone enanthate. I cycled for about 12-13 weeks stopping DECA 2 weeks before Sus and then went onto PCT Clomid, Arimadex and HCG. It was during the cycle that I had noticed an increase in ripples on the left and rear of my scalp that were gradual but continued until now I have significant rippling down the left and back of my head - forcing me to stop shaving my head due to embarassment.
Body building is my life and is the only thing that gives me pleasure, helps reduce my depression and gives me a goal. When I was on cycle I felt like a million bucks and that's what I want again. But I am absolutely shit scared about aggravating this damned CVG as I don't want it to get worse.
So little seems to be known about CVG other than studies showing that secondary CVG can be caused due to HGH and anabolic steroids. I understand that CVG conditions are something that endocrinologists know something about but I am hoping in this forum there are people with good knowledge and understanding of the relation between growth hormone and whatever else is going on and the human scalp. I am of the belief it may be an acceleration of growth of scalp tissue for some reason and it causes crowding of the skin hence the furrows in the scalp. Some photos online have guys whose bald heads resemble a complete brain pattern.
I want to know if there is anything that won't aggravate the scalp - something that avoids side effects in that area but still give me the gains that I desire. The peptides did something to begin it seems and since then it's triggered a permanent condition.
Please don't tell me the only solution is to stop everything. I am after suggestions on what the best option I have if I am still going to take AS. Also if there is something I could take alongside to mitigate/eliminate potential scalp related sides.
Thank you for reading.
new to forum but have searched high and low everywhere online for anybody that can offer some sound advice on a relatively little know topic - I have Cutis Verticus Gyrata which is basically convoluted ripples on my scalp (mainly left and rear side) that resemble the outline of the shape of a brain. I have secondary CVG meaning it is not a preexisting genetic condition but rather from hormonal changes.
It first started when I was in Australia years ago. I was on a low dose of Reandrol for low testosterone prescribed by my urologist - every 2 then 3 months. I have also been on a controlled dose of Thyroxine for hypothyroidism.
I was also on antidepressants and anti anxiety meds. I was overweight and at one point I began a health kick involving cardio gradually increasing and then incorporating gym workouts (i had been into natural body building for many years prior to when I stopped training for about 4 years).
As my fitness improved I turned to peptides which a peptide clinic in Australia prescribed to me. I started on CJC-1295 & Ipamorelin on the highest recommended doses. I later incorporated SARMS Forte. It is during this time that I noticed the first sign of CVG - a single ripple line along left side of scalp. I asked the peptide hormone doctor and he stated that it is rare but can occur from the peptides I was on and said that if I stopped it would return to normal.
It did not. I stopped for a few months and later when my gym workouts were getting even more intense I decided to then start on an anabolic cycle. I went on a cycle of Deca and Sustanol with testosterone enanthate. I cycled for about 12-13 weeks stopping DECA 2 weeks before Sus and then went onto PCT Clomid, Arimadex and HCG. It was during the cycle that I had noticed an increase in ripples on the left and rear of my scalp that were gradual but continued until now I have significant rippling down the left and back of my head - forcing me to stop shaving my head due to embarassment.
Body building is my life and is the only thing that gives me pleasure, helps reduce my depression and gives me a goal. When I was on cycle I felt like a million bucks and that's what I want again. But I am absolutely shit scared about aggravating this damned CVG as I don't want it to get worse.
So little seems to be known about CVG other than studies showing that secondary CVG can be caused due to HGH and anabolic steroids. I understand that CVG conditions are something that endocrinologists know something about but I am hoping in this forum there are people with good knowledge and understanding of the relation between growth hormone and whatever else is going on and the human scalp. I am of the belief it may be an acceleration of growth of scalp tissue for some reason and it causes crowding of the skin hence the furrows in the scalp. Some photos online have guys whose bald heads resemble a complete brain pattern.
I want to know if there is anything that won't aggravate the scalp - something that avoids side effects in that area but still give me the gains that I desire. The peptides did something to begin it seems and since then it's triggered a permanent condition.
Please don't tell me the only solution is to stop everything. I am after suggestions on what the best option I have if I am still going to take AS. Also if there is something I could take alongside to mitigate/eliminate potential scalp related sides.
Thank you for reading.
