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Barely any gains from test and deca!

r2truth

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Doing my first cycle of test@ 500 and deca@ 250 (fully aware that 500mgs of test only is best but my joints were killing me). I am at the beginning of week 5 of test, added the deca 2 weeks ago and I have only gained about 4 pounds. My bp recently started to go up just last week, aggression definitely increased last week or so. I upped my aromasin from 12.5 mgs eod to 12.5 ed due to bloat, doing cardio 5x a week for 10 mins, diet is on point, on a lean bulk 250 cals over maintenance. I just feel like my gear is fake, if not under dosed. I was expecting a lot more or am I doing something wrong? Should I decrease the ai and caber or eat more cals or maybe do less cardio? Or m I just a late bloomer? Or is just bs when u hear guys gaining 30 pounds of muscle on their first cycle, maybe they confuse water weight or fat for muscle, I hear so many people saying that ai kills gains, Idk I m just extremely mind fucked by all the info on the Internet...
Post from my buddy who is extremely stressed on his first run.

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Side note: he is using geneza pharmacy, lol told him to stay away from it but he didn't listen

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Who knows man. Idk what your diet is like. I don't know what your training is like. To much to consider.
 
A few things... WAY too early to be expecting gains first off. Secondly, I would go 500cals above maintenance at least. Thirdly, deca is gonna cause water retention regardless so upping the AI could be premature. Last thing is yes 30lbs first cycle is rare and even when it happens at least 7-10lbs of that is going to be just water. So hang around here and you'll learn more.
There is a ton of shitty info on the net but I can assure you we don't let that go uncorrected around here.


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1. STUPID and EXTRA STUPID on the reasoning for using deca... deca is not the answer for your joints... deca is amazing in so many ways but that's misuse and especially on a first cycle... when you don't listen to others guidance then what can you really expect? its still too early to think the gear is fake... deca takes quite a while to really show, on the up of 6 weeks but 30 lbs. is ridiculous... even ones that are extremely undersized don't gain 30 lbs. and anyone that does most certainly is not going to keep it and more likely to cause many more problems internally and externally than anything... that's a recipe for injuries and problems... 2. is caber being used? 3. your not bloating from deca, especially not 250 and especially not after only 2 weeks... that has nothing to do with it... your test is probably over dosed as it is or your just taking too much because your more estrogen sensitive than others... you really need to fix this before it gets out of hand
 
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