About me and starting my first cycle

[msumbudy]

so ive been watching videos from Dylan Gemelli for about a week which got me to this forum, and i personally thought i can get some feedback from more than one person about what i want to achieve.

ive been shooting my friend for a few weeks and hes been gaining some nice results more water retention cause of the dbol, test and one other one is is using all injections, i was talking to him in what is recommended what i want and how i should start it. i am a gymnast, i do calisthenics and i have not lifted a single weight, benched, curled in over 3 years, yeah i know its pretty crazy, i am already cut, jacked, and pretty big for the training i do. i have NEVER done any cycles before, nor have i ever taken any protein powder or creatine in my work outs, yea ive been pretty much all natural for years



so this is pretty much me 26 years old, 6 foot 1 185-190 pounds. ive been doing some research and what hes been telling me, and im looking to start a standalone tbol 30-40mg 8-week cycle orally. now, money is a little tight so i was wondering the difference from doing 20mg,30mg,40mg per day and the amount i could gain from each daily dosage. ive always heard from going 40-60mg a day, but i dont really think i would be interested in that much gain lol. so im kinda wondering is 20mg a day is worth it for 8 week cycle cause then PCT i wouldnt need to use so much clomid or nolva for the next couple weeks after that, and if i do on a lower mg cycle would PCT be a shorter cycle as well?

Guess this is what im most concerned about. if i missed anything or if i don't understand something i would appreciate any help i can get! thanks guys

 

[rockmfhudd]

oral only cycles are pretty much a suicide wish bro you HAVE to have a test base and you don't do dbol on your first cycle 8 weeks isn't long enuff. after re reading this you are skimping on PCT? for real you are going to fuck yourself up man. you cannot get a good or great cycle on a dollar general budget. save your money and health don't do anything

 

[msumbudy]

oral only cycles are pretty much a suicide wish bro you HAVE to have a test base and you don't do dbol on your first cycle 8 weeks isn't long enuff. after re reading this you are skimping on PCT? for real you are going to fuck yourself up man. you cannot get a good or great cycle on a dollar general budget. save your money and health don't do anything

i read some people doing oral only but i could of missed the test they used. now i dont want to do any injections, what would you think is right in taking with what you read through so far, yeah i guess, i mean im hitting a pllateau for a while and i always feel like im never looking good enough lol i know, cause i have about 300$ atm im trying to see what i can get for that in a full cycle

 

[rockmfhudd]

you haven't read on here that anyone is doing oral only cycles without their asses getting roasted. sarms is about it but you cant touch a 12 week cycle or even an 8 week cycle of sarms on that save some more money bro don't half ass it or you will hurt yourself any gear has to have a test base which will require injections the sarms are oral solutions but not gear

 

[MaxxPursuit]

You don't want to do an oral only cycle man. Here's the truth... you have to get over pinning or aas just isn't for you. You need to run a test base always. For your first cycle, it should be test only. Something you have to understand is that all aas shuts you down. That means pct is going to be very important and needs to be complete each time you run a cycle. Everything has it's "effective" dose and run time in order to accomplish what is needed. With that said, never be cheap with pct. That is one, if not the most important parts of your cycle if you want to keep gains. Here is an example of a simple first aas cycle:

Week 1-12
Test Cyp 350mg EW
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Weeks 15-18
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Simple but you can see that your budget is not enough. To do this safely, you will have to pay. On a first cycle, it is very wise to get bloodwork before (baseline), during (to make sure you're dialing in your AI properly,etc), and after (to make sure you recovered). You also need to have everything on hand before you start. Don't make the mistake of jumping the gun and starting before you have everything. So a few things man, 1. no oral only cycles. 2. get over pinning if you want this lifestyle. 3. save up some more money so you can do this properly.

 

[rockmfhudd]

^^^^^yep what he said i mean you can do what you want but we want you to be safe so you can run cycles forever if you choose to


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[Bigbird]

If you are looking for something to give you an extra edge and aren't ready for needles the I recommend you consider running a sarms cycle. In all honesty this is probably a much better option for you at this point in time anyway. But it is not cheap by any means. If money is too big of a concern the right thing to do would be to continue naturally until you have enough in the bank to get everything you will need. You never want to half ass a cycle.

 

[hlstivarius]

And here we go pushing those fucking SARMS aka nectar of the gods .., please ������

It's definitely better for this guy who really has no idea about AAS

 

[EZ_E]

so ive been watching videos from Dylan Gemelli for about a week which got me to this forum, and i personally thought i can get some feedback from more than one person about what i want to achieve.

ive been shooting my friend for a few weeks and hes been gaining some nice results more water retention cause of the dbol, test and one other one is is using all injections, i was talking to him in what is recommended what i want and how i should start it. i am a gymnast, i do calisthenics and i have not lifted a single weight, benched, curled in over 3 years, yeah i know its pretty crazy, i am already cut, jacked, and pretty big for the training i do. i have NEVER done any cycles before, nor have i ever taken any protein powder or creatine in my work outs, yea ive been pretty much all natural for years

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so this is pretty much me 26 years old, 6 foot 1 185-190 pounds. ive been doing some research and what hes been telling me, and im looking to start a standalone tbol 30-40mg 8-week cycle orally. now, money is a little tight so i was wondering the difference from doing 20mg,30mg,40mg per day and the amount i could gain from each daily dosage. ive always heard from going 40-60mg a day, but i dont really think i would be interested in that much gain lol. so im kinda wondering is 20mg a day is worth it for 8 week cycle cause then PCT i wouldnt need to use so much clomid or nolva for the next couple weeks after that, and if i do on a lower mg cycle would PCT be a shorter cycle as well?

Guess this is what im most concerned about. if i missed anything or if i don't understand something i would appreciate any help i can get! thanks guys

Welcome to the board....

A few things that I see based on this thread thus far;

A) Gymnasts are great athletes so you have my sincere admiration, but a lot of the anabolics you have mentioned thus far really won't help you for your sport (yes, gymnastics is a sport no 1 bust his balls)
B) SARMS would be a better consideration but if cash is @ a premium right now then you may want to hold off. We've all been there cash wise but that last thing you want to do is start anything and then run out of funds. You need to be able to have a reserve for any compounds, nutrition, supps, etc. AND you don't want to try to squeeze it into a certain amount of $$$ (in your case the $300 you mentioned)