A qestion about Suppresion

[jp1957]

As Rick, Dylan, and few others know, when I take SARMS< I totally get kicked in the nutsack on suppression.

But here's my question, as I look across teh varied cycles I've taken, my first cycle went from 600>300, subsequent cycles 600> into the 100's (which is pretty brutal).

In looking back, there are only 2 factors I see that separate the first cycle, from any later ones.

1> It was my first cycle
2> I took mk677 though abit after mid cycle, where I got the 300 level test.

So I was kind of looking for some collective wisdom, was it because it was first cycle I didnt get so suppressed,or the mk677? (or at worst both I guess)

 

[DylanGemelli]

really no idea on it because 677 is non suppressive but it does increase igf levels which is beneficial for test but if i remember right you didnt take it very long right?

 

[RickRock]

There are so many factors that go into it, it's hard to say. Things with your lifestyle, general heal th, age, etc and test levels vary even in the same day. There's highs and lows. I wouldn't really over think it too much because I honestly don't think there's a good solid answer. At least not one I'm aware of

 

[jp1957]

Yea, I was just debating on another full cycle of gw/Ostarine, but that 10th week just gets brutal when the suppression really kicks in. Dylan, I took, the mk677, probably around 6 weeks into the cycle, just past that, and bloods were 300.

It was just a thought as I looked back, why that first cycle wasnt so bad, and subsequent cycles were just bad for suppression. I might give it a go anyways, add the mk677 and see.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Yea, I was just debating on another full cycle of gw/Ostarine, but that 10th week just gets brutal when the suppression really kicks in. Dylan, I took, the mk677, probably around 6 weeks into the cycle, just past that, and bloods were 300.

It was just a thought as I looked back, why that first cycle wasnt so bad, and subsequent cycles were just bad for suppression. I might give it a go anyways, add the mk677 and see.

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[RickRock]

I do know that the more you cycle, the harder recovery typically becomes. Over time, your body doesn't quite bounce back as well as it used to

 

[jp1957]

so far, my problem hasnt been bouncing back, but the drop just gets worse...

 

[44YOGearHead]

Whenever IGF-1 levels increase your PRL (plasma prolactin) levels increase and subsequently will suppress your testosterone levels.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19696100