6 Weeks Later On TRT w/Bloodwork

[punkpwnzor]

So my current dose is 70mg once a week. Original Test levels pre-TRT were 250ish and e2 was 14.5

Today i have my appointment with my doctor to talk about upping my dose depending on how i feel, we are not basing my levels on how i feel. After six weeks, their isn't much improvement (shitty, low energy, etc) So my labs show my test levels jumped up too 834ng/dl and 21.5pg/ml e2. Not bad considering we started kind of low dose.

Would you guys suggest jumping to 100mg or 120mg. I am sure that would probably put me in 950-1100ng/dl range and with a higher e2 which ill need to ask the doctor to give me a script for aromasin, hopefully he knows what it is, but ill ask it for it anyways. If i get the doctor to write me a script for aromasin, what dose should i start at so i can tell him to write it on the script?

Thanks

 

[Testdude63]

I would suggest following the doctor's advise if you want to keep your script lol

 

[punkpwnzor]

I would suggest following the doctor's advise if you want to keep your script lol

Ya I gotta play along haha.

 

[RickRock]

So my current dose is 70mg once a week. Original Test levels pre-TRT were 250ish and e2 was 14.5

Today i have my appointment with my doctor to talk about upping my dose depending on how i feel, we are not basing my levels on how i feel. After six weeks, their isn't much improvement (shitty, low energy, etc) So my labs show my test levels jumped up too 834ng/dl and 21.5pg/ml e2. Not bad considering we started kind of low dose.

Would you guys suggest jumping to 100mg or 120mg. I am sure that would probably put me in 950-1100ng/dl range and with a higher e2 which ill need to ask the doctor to give me a script for aromasin, hopefully he knows what it is, but ill ask it for it anyways. If i get the doctor to write me a script for aromasin, what dose should i start at so i can tell him to write it on the script?

Thanks

Wow, those test numbers are incredibly high for only 70mg of test per week. How long after injection was the bloods done?

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[punkpwnzor]

Wow, those test numbers are incredibly high for only 70mg of test per week. How long after injection was the bloods done?

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I inject Monday mornings and did bloodwork that Wednesday morning.

So great news my doctor wants to up my dose to 100mg for two weeks, if I don't feel any better, than go to 125mg for two weeks, and if not changes then 150mg.

Also wrote me a script for aromasin at 6.25 dose or half of 12.5mg. So probably either do 6.25 every other third day or 12.5 twice a week once if I get up higher in test dose.

Wants blood work down in 8-10 weeks. So by that time I might be in the 125-15mg range. He just wants me to start feeling better so he's willing to try higher dosages.

We are looking at thyroid because he feels it's a bit low but the numbers show normal and would be normal to a regular doctor. But he feels it needs to be addressed but not right now.

Luciky I didn't need to convince him on upping my dose or even adding aromasin.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I inject Monday mornings and did bloodwork that Wednesday morning.

So great news my doctor wants to up my dose to 100mg for two weeks, if I don't feel any better, than go to 125mg for two weeks, and if not changes then 150mg.

Also wrote me a script for aromasin at 6.25 dose or half of 12.5mg. So probably either do 6.25 every other third day or 12.5 twice a week once if I get up higher in test dose.

Wants blood work down in 8-10 weeks. So by that time I might be in the 125-15mg range. He just wants me to start feeling better so he's willing to try higher dosages.

We are looking at thyroid because he feels it's a bit low but the numbers show normal and would be normal to a regular doctor. But he feels it needs to be addressed but not right now.

Luciky I didn't need to convince him on upping my dose or even adding aromasin.

sounds like he is on your side... thats a good thing! i would go with 100-125... it seems your responding extremely well and there's no need for any more than that... i would go 6.25 mg every other day of aromasin to start and see how that does for you... if its too much, you can scale back to every 3 days...

 

[punkpwnzor]

sounds like he is on your side... thats a good thing! i would go with 100-125... it seems your responding extremely well and there's no need for any more than that... i would go 6.25 mg every other day of aromasin to start and see how that does for you... if its too much, you can scale back to every 3 days...

Ya I figured the 100-125mg would put me in the 950-1200 range somewhere between their. And that's really good considering where I started.

So next Monday I'll start the 100mg. I'm just wondering when I should add the AI. Maybe if I see any flare ups. Or wait to do bloodwork, I don't want to have all this e2 floating around. And the good thing is it seems I don't pump out estrogen so easily.

Thanks for the response DG. And thanks Rick for the recommendation when to do bloodwork after injection.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ya I figured the 100-125mg would put me in the 950-1200 range somewhere between their. And that's really good considering where I started.

So next Monday I'll start the 100mg. I'm just wondering when I should add the AI. Maybe if I see any flare ups. Or wait to do bloodwork, I don't want to have all this e2 floating around. And the good thing is it seems I don't pump out estrogen so easily.

Thanks for the response DG. And thanks Rick for the recommendation when to do bloodwork after injection.

i would check your levels now and see where they are at and then again in 3-4 weeks to see the effects of the change of the higher dose...

 

[punkpwnzor]

i would check your levels now and see where they are at and then again in 3-4 weeks to see the effects of the change of the higher dose...

E2 right now is 21. So once I start new dose, I could go in like 2-3 weeks and see where things are at.

 

[DylanGemelli]

E2 right now is 21. So once I start new dose, I could go in like 2-3 weeks and see where things are at.

yes, that would be the most ideal

 

[punkpwnzor]

yes, that would be the most ideal

In still amazed how a little of a dose went a long way in terms of test levels and free test was at max

 

[DylanGemelli]

In still amazed how a little of a dose went a long way in terms of test levels and free test was at max

actually, i am too... i would have expected it to go up a good amount but definitely not to the extent it did... thats great for you.. your a damn good responder and it was not a large problem there... many are not that fortunate bro...

 

[punkpwnzor]

actually, i am too... i would have expected it to go up a good amount but definitely not to the extent it did... thats great for you.. your a damn good responder and it was not a large problem there... many are not that fortunate bro...

Ya the doc said the same. Which is great because I can run much less Like you preach and still benefit.

Haha even the doc was like hcg is pointless but if I noticed my nuts shrink that we could use it sparringly but not on this protocol.

 

[RickRock]

I inject Monday mornings and did bloodwork that Wednesday morning.

So great news my doctor wants to up my dose to 100mg for two weeks, if I don't feel any better, than go to 125mg for two weeks, and if not changes then 150mg.

Also wrote me a script for aromasin at 6.25 dose or half of 12.5mg. So probably either do 6.25 every other third day or 12.5 twice a week once if I get up higher in test dose.

Wants blood work down in 8-10 weeks. So by that time I might be in the 125-15mg range. He just wants me to start feeling better so he's willing to try higher dosages.

We are looking at thyroid because he feels it's a bit low but the numbers show normal and would be normal to a regular doctor. But he feels it needs to be addressed but not right now.

Luciky I didn't need to convince him on upping my dose or even adding aromasin.

That's awesome bro. I'm glad you have a good doc, which is hard to come by these days. It seems like he is going to take care of you which is great. I'm sure the doc will be watching your blood work as well as listening to how you feel on the different doses and will find that sweet spot for you.


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[buen]

A couple of thoughts....
If ur at 880ng/mL and feel like shit...you should be checking other things..cortisol etc
If your estradiol is 21 on your 70mg per week dose...I don't think you will need an AI for 100mg
I would wait 2 weeks and test your estradiol again... You might even feel better with it in the range of 35
Just my thoughts..ymmv

 

[punkpwnzor]

A couple of thoughts....
If ur at 880ng/mL and feel like shit...you should be checking other things..cortisol etc
If your estradiol is 21 on your 70mg per week dose...I don't think you will need an AI for 100mg
I would wait 2 weeks and test your estradiol again... You might even feel better with it in the range of 35
Just my thoughts..ymmv

My cortisol pre-trt was super low. Now it's a lot higher which is better. Not too high and not too low.

And yes I think at 100mg I still won't need an AI. My doc wants me to see how I feel before I up to the next dose of 125mg. So I'll run the 100mg for 2-3 weeks and then run labs again on that third week.

 

[punkpwnzor]

That's awesome bro. I'm glad you have a good doc, which is hard to come by these days. It seems like he is going to take care of you which is great. I'm sure the doc will be watching your blood work as well as listening to how you feel on the different doses and will find that sweet spot for you.


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Ya I lucked out. Funny thing is I found this doctor off the T nation forum and was a recommendation by another user. So I said screw it and drove up to see him.

 

[buen]

What was your pre TRT test level? You should be feeling really good at 880
I think it beneficial to keep searching for answers...not just upping your test

 

[punkpwnzor]

What was your pre TRT test level? You should be feeling really good at 880
I think it beneficial to keep searching for answers...not just upping your test

Mid 200s. Ya I think I'm gonna max at 125mg. Doctor wants to look at other areas but was willing to up dose to factor that out.
Any higher than 150mg based on how effective a low dose works, I think 100-125 is sweet spot.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Mid 200s. Ya I think I'm gonna max at 125mg. Doctor wants to look at other areas but was willing to up dose to factor that out.
Any higher than 150mg based on how effective a low dose works, I think 100-125 is sweet spot.

i dont see you needing 150 at all and you may not need an ai at all but if you have the script, absolutely get it... you always want it on hand regardless...