Toxicity of 17aa Injectables

Does anyone have experience with using injectable 17aa steroids and there oral counterparts? Like anadrol for example, it can be very toxic but would you be saving your health by choosing to inject it instead? Or are the differences only marginal? Im actually considering using winny but I've stayed away from orals for a while now. Im considering the possibility of injecting it instead. My ALT and AST are in range thankfully and I really don't want to run the risk of raising them as everything I've read on liver toxicity seems to not make any fucking sense lol. Lots of confusing info out there especially regarding the toxicity of orals, and how toxic orals REALLY are. I've always heard 4-5 weeks on any oral. Now I'm hearing 6 weeks is optimal for things like Winny and even 6-8 is acceptable? I always run tudca or NAC on a cycle even with no orals.

Today will be day 5 of pinning BGS anadrol 50mg. He has quite a few inj compounds from he oral form. Maybe he can answer parts of this for you. I'm interested as well.


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The injectables are still 17a and still must fight the liver. They do bypass the first and easier round of fighting. Taken orally most is fought with the stomach then goes to liver,where it spills over with enzymes but the oral moves on into the bloodstream. Once in the bloodstream the liver again fight it. By injecting into the muscle the oral gets into the blood stream and is sent to liver via hepatic portal of which again there is a fight. So by injecting you save the first and easier liver fight ,but not the hard fight. So what does this mean? It means you can fuck your liver up just the same.

Jake hit it spot on. It still has to pass through the liver, it just bypasses the initial pass via digestion of the gut.

I personally would go injectable before oral for anything. Even anti-inflammatory medication. That said, you MUST run Cycle Assist or equivalent with injectables just as you would with orals.

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If it is 17a then it is still an oral no matter if you inject it or do like rickrock and take it as an enema. Consider it an oral. 17a is a chemical configuration that challenges the liver.

Jake said:

The injectables are still 17a and still must fight the liver. They do bypass the first and easier round of fighting. Taken orally most is fought with the stomach then goes to liver,where it spills over with enzymes but the oral moves on into the bloodstream. Once in the bloodstream the liver again fight it. By injecting into the muscle the oral gets into the blood stream and is sent to liver via hepatic portal of which again there is a fight. So by injecting you save the first and easier liver fight ,but not the hard fight. So what does this mean? It means you can fuck your liver up just the same.

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Thank you. This makes a lot of sense.