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Sorry, you folks are the only ones I know that can answer this. I typically do a DB Bench Press instead of bar. Palms forward. I was reading about doing a DB press, but palms facing. But itseems more of a tricep workout,less chest. So is this done in addition to db press, or in place of...

lgd/rad/s4 is the power trio of sarms.

and yet again, why I have a home gym...

No No No No! Never ever discuss steroids/sarms with your doc, it goes in your medical record. If you do have that discussion, feel the doctor out about how he will document it. Mine goes in my record as "weight lifting supplements", so no insurance company can ever fuck me over for it.

sarms cant be legally sold for human consumption. No store would have real sarms. They can sell pro hormones though. Which is what you got.

Personally, I might start sarms early, say 4 weeks ahead of the test cycle. That to me is a kickstart. IMHO of course. Run the sarms full 12 week.

360 is well within range, and no respectable place would put him on trt. tongkat ali works very well to boost test numbers. I was taking it before it became popular. I'm 61 and my test is at 600. I havent tried Dylans stuff yet, but I use a stuff called "status" from Bluestar Nutracuticals (sp?).

Officially back to 4x now. Didnt slam a powerbar before my workout, and dint realize it until about done. Interesting, no shakes, etc, for not having ate for 8 hours. Wont do it again, but was just surprised I didnt get the shakes,or run outa gas. Did get that horrid right bicep pump again...

and dbol is just gonna get water weight.

and make sure you get your sarms from a legit place.

I wasnt sore this morning, so hit legs day (well legs, and bi's tri's). Increased single leg bench step ups by 6%, hammie curls by 5%, even squats felt better, but with my back, I cant get all manly on those. Bi's and tri's stayed about the same, but got a horrible pump from preacher curls...

well, here I am at 4 weeks now, On a break from GW, still hitting LGD/Osta/Mk677. Stlll fighting the water weight gain, but its subsided now. Everytime I hit mk677, I put n about 8-10 pounds of water weight. Its just the way it goes for me, potassium or not. The stuff is starting to kick in...

Hey Dylan and CO, isnt tbol, better than dbol anyways?

You obviously havent a clue what you are doing, solets take a step back. 1> First cycle is always test only. Drop the dbol, you dont know what you are doing with it, as I see no liver support at all. 2> A woefully incomplete PCT

keep the gw up during your trip, you can run up to 16weeks.

lets be real here, now if we're talking grossly overweight, then yea, but lets take me for example at 20% (I dont go under that cuz of my diving, and I'd freeze). If I came on here, you guys would say no. Even though I lift heavy as fuck(forme anyways), workout 4 days a week(and no baby...

Then how are powerlifters getting away with taking steroids, as they sure arent 15% or less.?

You sure you have legit gw? where did you get it. It should not impact sleep in the least.

you'd be better to run gw in both. GW maximizes any cycle. You can take it for 16weeks. The beauty of sarms, is you can do most anything with them, cut, bulk, or recomp. Now certain ones are better then others for specific goals. Personally, I'd run S4/ostarine and gw, then gw/MK/SR if it...

Probably didn't listen. I knew it all back then too, later I learned better