First Cycle-Test E- Criticism Welcomed

[thegrelliott]

Hey guys, second time posting, loved the feedback I got and am changing my first cycle because of the help you guys supplied, so thank you! Here is what I have laid out...

Test E: 1-12weeks (500mg, 2 shots a week, maybe just 1 shot if I end up not wanting to do 2 a week)
Arimidex: 1-16weeks (0.5mg e3d)
HCG: 4-12weeks (250IU a week)
Nothing: 13-14weeks
Nolvadex: 15-16weeks (20mg ed)
Clomid: 15-16weeks (50mg ed)

I am 21, been bodybuilding 5 years seriously, I plan on starting late this month (December). I know some may say I am too young, but I am aware this is a very mild cycle, and I am planning on doing it anyway so help of any kind would be beneficial. Thanks! If anyone wants me to post a pic of my current physique I would be happy to.

 

[stets]

Mild or not. These guys will tell you wait bro. This can affect you long term

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I dont like that cycle, but regardless, at your age dude i would wait on AAS and run a nice SARMS stack. Pure Essence has nice sales going on now..

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I personally would run the test 350-500mg week, use aromasin instead of anastrozol if possible and I never use HCG. Throw in some GW501516 and some MK2866 along side Aromasin and Nolva and Clomid for PCT and ur good. Dosages and durations will all be preference. Based off your age and experience level however, I would have to advise you to opt for non AAS solutions at this time and maybe consider a SARMS cycle instead. At least for another few years, as u should be taking advantage of your naturally high testosterone levels due to your body's natural growth while its young

 

[thegrelliott]

I dont like that cycle, but regardless, at your age dude i would wait on AAS and run a nice SARMS stack. Pure Essence has nice sales going on now..

Any particular reason you don't like the cycle? I am here to learn!

 

[thegrelliott]

I personally would run the test 350-500mg week, use aromasin instead of anastrozol if possible and I never use HCG. Throw in some GW501516 and some MK2866 along side Aromasin and Nolva and Clomid for PCT and ur good. Dosages and durations will all be preference. Based off your age and experience level however, I would have to advise you to opt for non AAS solutions at this time and maybe consider a SARMS cycle instead. At least for another few years, as u should be taking advantage of your naturally high testosterone levels due to your body's natural growth while its young

Yeah I know aromasin is better but i'm having a hard time finding it on the source I am using (a highly reputable source). I have done extensive research on HCG today and essentially the reason behind my use is to use a low dose as to not let your testicles atrophy in the first place, this will reduce chance of long term damage from testicular damage and will ease you into pct much easier and make that more successful. I see you guys suggest GW501516 and MK2866 everywhere haha, must be popular! I know I am young, but have put a lot of time into bodybuilding. I have placed 2nd in 3 state level shows, and won the overall at my college show last April. My growth has slowed down extensively, and I am ready to make gains. I figure the more I can learn on here from you guys the better my chances are, and the healthier I will be!

 

[MaxxPursuit]

What are your goals? current stats? Honestly speaking man, mild or not... shut down is shut down. The fact is at your age, your HPTA and endocrine systems have not finished developing. At 21, your body is pretty much done growing but up until around 24-25 years old, there are other parts of you still developing. By going on you're disrupting the normal balance of your hormones through it's developmental phase and that means you are risking permanent shutdown among other reversible and irreversible effects. Being on TRT for life is a possibility no matter how many safeties you put in place like proper pct, hcg, etc. Don't think I'm bashing you man, I think it's awesome you're deep into this all, competing and taking shows, etc. I know you'll probably do what you want to do and that's fine but you should know the risks. If I were you, I would wait a couple years before touching aas. Instead I would recommend giving SARMs a shot. Yea, they're a little more pricey than aas depending on what you want to run but they're rock solid. That's why you see guys here recommending them. You can easily put on lbs of lean mass, get the hardening effects, vascularity, strength gains, etc without the side effects and without risking damaging your HPTA/Endo system. I'd explore that route first for the next couple years, get some sarms cycles under your belt, stick around here and learn more about aas... then when the time comes, you'll be prepared.

 

[transformer24]

You will make huge HUGE gains from SARMs alone. Try those first. They are safer for you right now and you will see the kind of gains you want very quickly bro. Doesn't that make more sense to you?

 

[RickRock]

What are your goals? current stats? Honestly speaking man, mild or not... shut down is shut down. The fact is at your age, your HPTA and endocrine systems have not finished developing. At 21, your body is pretty much done growing but up until around 24-25 years old, there are other parts of you still developing. By going on you're disrupting the normal balance of your hormones through it's developmental phase and that means you are risking permanent shutdown among other reversible and irreversible effects. Being on TRT for life is a possibility no matter how many safeties you put in place like proper pct, hcg, etc. Don't think I'm bashing you man, I think it's awesome you're deep into this all, competing and taking shows, etc. I know you'll probably do what you want to do and that's fine but you should know the risks. If I were you, I would wait a couple years before touching aas. Instead I would recommend giving SARMs a shot. Yea, they're a little more pricey than aas depending on what you want to run but they're rock solid. That's why you see guys here recommending them. You can easily put on lbs of lean mass, get the hardening effects, vascularity, strength gains, etc without the side effects and without risking damaging your HPTA/Endo system. I'd explore that route first for the next couple years, get some sarms cycles under your belt, stick around here and learn more about aas... then when the time comes, you'll be prepared.

I agree with this completely. You really need to reevaluate things and look at sarms as a viable option. AAS is not the answer right now

Let me know and I can certainly help you setup a good sarms stack for you