First cycle doses...dbol/primo

[frankherrera04]

hi guys i have a dianabol 25mg 50tablets and primobolan 25mg 60tablets... i want to run this sustances.. i want help with the doses..

im 22, 187lb(85kg), bff 12-15% have a good diet.. low in sodium

is my first cycle so i dont know to start with dbol 50mg/ED, or 25mg/ED to start the first week and then increase to 50mg/ED... primo 100 or 200mg?/ED
proviron 25mg/ED... pct HCG 1250ui/E3D? , nolvadex and clomid... liver protector 2 week before and after... would you recommend protector during the cycle, i dont know if everyday or every 2 days i dont know... so thats all thanks i hope you cant help, i dont want a hugeeee gains thats why I'm not adding testo..

 

[Cwrose1]

You need to run test with these.....these are PH and will shut you down.....you'll be at risk for serious side effects. Orals alone are not a good idea. I know more experienced people will chime in....

 

[frankherrera04]

You need to run test with these.....these are PH and will shut you down.....you'll be at risk for serious side effects. Orals alone are not a good idea. I know more experienced people will chime in....

okay bro thanks for your advice, so i have another option.. i buy the primo and run test/dianabol... but i dont want to much water retention thats why i control very much diet and i do cardio.. what test did you recomend cypio o propio? and what doses did you recommend for me(first time using sustances).. to structure correct the cycle, in this cases i have to eliminate proviron or not? pct the same nolva and clomid.. the hcg?

 

[Cwrose1]

okay bro thanks for your advice, so i have another option.. i buy the primo and run test/dianabol... but i dont want to much water retention thats why i control very much diet and i do cardio.. what test did you recomend cypio o propio? and what doses did you recommend for me(first time using sustances).. to structure correct the cycle, in this cases i have to eliminate proviron or not? pct the same nolva and clomid.. the hcg?

I'm not an expert...yet....I just know enough. I believe test cyp would be fine,somewhere around 250 a week.

Dylan and RICK will chime in...or spikedeggnog...listen to them. THEY KNOW THEY'RE SHIT

 

[Cwrose1]

It also depends on your stats...height weight age bf? List them so everyone can help you.

 

[frankherrera04]

haha thanks bro.. and sorry for any error in my english, im from panama

 

[frankherrera04]

It also depends on your stats...height weight age bf? List them so everyone can help you.

i put it in the threat.. 22years, 1.81cm, 187lb(85kg) bf 12-15%

 

[frankherrera04]

i put it in the threat.. 22years, 1.81cm, 187lb(85kg) bf 12-15%

1-4 D-bol 30mg/ED
1-8 Cypio Test 300mg/sem
2-8 Proviron 25mg/ED
2-10 HCG 500 ui/week
11-13 Nolvadex 30,20,20mg/ED
11-13 clomid 100, 50,50mg/ED

 

[cmb5017]

Your a lil young to be running steroids yet bro. You may want to hold off about 3 more years

 

[PHURIOUS]

That doesnt make alot of sense to run those two products.

First cycle is always recommended as testosterone only as your body will maximize every drop be a new user


PHURIOUS

 

[hurricane]

hi guys i have a dianabol 25mg 50tablets and primobolan 25mg 60tablets... i want to run this sustances.. i want help with the doses..

im 22, 187lb(85kg), bff 12-15% have a good diet.. low in sodium

is my first cycle so i dont know to start with dbol 50mg/ED, or 25mg/ED to start the first week and then increase to 50mg/ED... primo 100 or 200mg?/ED
proviron 25mg/ED... pct HCG 1250ui/E3D? , nolvadex and clomid... liver protector 2 week before and after... would you recommend protector during the cycle, i dont know if everyday or every 2 days i dont know... so thats all thanks i hope you cant help, i dont want a hugeeee gains thats why I'm not adding testo..

where did you come to the conclusion these 2 combine were good for a 1st cycle?

run test and use either the primo or dbol with it.. or better yet run the test alone

 

[SpikedEggnog]

as the others have already said, TEST only is usually the best first cycle. BUT you are only 22 yrs old, so you should look into other options besides AAS right now. you are still growing/maturing and you are a bit too young for AAS right now. try a SARMS stack for a safer alternative. you can do AAS when you are a bit older.

 

[frankherrera04]

where did you come to the conclusion these 2 combine were good for a 1st cycle?

run test and use either the primo or dbol with it.. or better yet run the test alone

yes i have to do better things..

1-4 D-bol 30mg/ED
1-8 Cypio Test 300mg/sem
2-8 Proviron 25mg/ED
2-10 HCG 500 ui/week
11-13 Nolvadex 30,20,20mg/ED
11-13 clomid 100, 50,50mg/ED

 

[RickRock]

hi guys i have a dianabol 25mg 50tablets and primobolan 25mg 60tablets... i want to run this sustances.. i want help with the doses..

im 22, 187lb(85kg), bff 12-15% have a good diet.. low in sodium

is my first cycle so i dont know to start with dbol 50mg/ED, or 25mg/ED to start the first week and then increase to 50mg/ED... primo 100 or 200mg?/ED
proviron 25mg/ED... pct HCG 1250ui/E3D? , nolvadex and clomid... liver protector 2 week before and after... would you recommend protector during the cycle, i dont know if everyday or every 2 days i dont know... so thats all thanks i hope you cant help, i dont want a hugeeee gains thats why I'm not adding testo..

Based on your goals that you don't want water retention, this being your first cycle, and you being a fairly young age. I would STRONGLY suggest you looking into sarms as an alternative.

They are perfect for your goals, they retain no water, and give you nice lean mass gains, increased hardness, strength, endurance, and fat loss. I have just the perfect stack for you that is much better for you than what you propose to run.

You need to stay completely away from things like Dbol which will only bloat you. If you must use steroids, test only is adequate for a first cycle, but this route with sarms is what I would recommend and I think would be much better for you. There is not the concern with gyno, estrogen sides, shutdown, and Sid effects from steroids. Sarms are extremely safe and very powerful

I would recommend the enhanced super stack to you

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)


PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day


All of this is available at www.pureessenceresearch.com and there is a very big sale going right now. Use code Nov15 to save 15% off of your entire order. Pure essence ships internationally with no issues, so no problem there bro

 

[frankherrera04]

Based on your goals that you don't want water retention, this being your first cycle, and you being a fairly young age. I would STRONGLY suggest you looking into sarms as an alternative.

They are perfect for your goals, they retain no water, and give you nice lean mass gains, increased hardness, strength, endurance, and fat loss. I have just the perfect stack for you that is much better for you than what you propose to run.

You need to stay completely away from things like Dbol which will only bloat you. If you must use steroids, test only is adequate for a first cycle, but this route with sarms is what I would recommend and I think would be much better for you. There is not the concern with gyno, estrogen sides, shutdown, and Sid effects from steroids. Sarms are extremely safe and very powerful

I would recommend the enhanced super stack to you

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)


PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day


All of this is available at www.pureessenceresearch.com and there is a very big sale going right now. Use code Nov15 to save 15% off of your entire order. Pure essence ships internationally with no issues, so no problem there bro

thanks bro.. talking about the sarm they are arrived in my country, i have acces to andarine s-4 30mg , GW-501516 (cardarine) 15mg , ostarine MK-2866 25mg, ligandrol LGD-4033 ... i dont know if you cant help me with theses to do bulking cycle.. thnks bro

 

[Jake]

hi guys i have a dianabol 25mg 50tablets and primobolan 25mg 60tablets... i want to run this sustances.. i want help with the doses..

im 22, 187lb(85kg), bff 12-15% have a good diet.. low in sodium

is my first cycle so i dont know to start with dbol 50mg/ED, or 25mg/ED to start the first week and then increase to 50mg/ED... primo 100 or 200mg?/ED
proviron 25mg/ED... pct HCG 1250ui/E3D? , nolvadex and clomid... liver protector 2 week before and after... would you recommend protector during the cycle, i dont know if everyday or every 2 days i dont know... so thats all thanks i hope you cant help, i dont want a hugeeee gains thats why I'm not adding testo..

Save that dbol for much much latter in your life. A good first cycle would be 200mg test cyp and sarms. Dbol is for more advanced and experienced guys.

 

[frankherrera04]

Save that dbol for much much latter in your life. A good first cycle would be 200mg test cyp and sarms. Dbol is for more advanced and experienced guys.

thanks for your advice... and yes i would the right things... go with sarm and supp... kick my ass in the gym and diet.. then if idecide go with juice start with test only...step by step.. im interested with sarm, in my country have ligandrol, cardarine, andarine and ostarine all by revolt pharma... maybe i bulk with ostarine, ligandrol and andarine

 

[RickRock]

thanks bro.. talking about the sarm they are arrived in my country, i have acces to andarine s-4 30mg , GW-501516 (cardarine) 15mg , ostarine MK-2866 25mg, ligandrol LGD-4033 ... i dont know if you cant help me with theses to do bulking cycle.. thnks bro

I don't know who exactly your sarms source is in your country, but it's honestly not so,etching I would risk at all brother. There are a lot of very underdosed and bunk sarms products out there. Your best bet is to go with pure essence sarms to ensure you have the right level of quality and purity.

 

[frankherrera04]

I don't know who exactly your sarms source is in your country, but it's honestly not so,etching I would risk at all brother. There are a lot of very underdosed and bunk sarms products out there. Your best bet is to go with pure essence sarms to ensure you have the right level of quality and purity.

sarm here are from revolt pharma.

 

[DylanGemelli]

sarm here are from revolt pharma.

not good bro... the good thing is that pure essence ships to you with no problem whatsoever..