8 weeks into super stack

[JL14028]

I'm 8 weeks into the super stack. I'm also on 3 tubes of testim 1% gel from Doctor. I'm dosing 12.5 of liquid Aromasin every other day. Also cycle support, various vitamins/ fats /aminos/diet in check.

-I KNOW THE TESTIM GEL SUCKS and THE LONGER ESTER INJECTIONS ARE BETTER. I'm using what's available to me now. The doctor changed the testim 1% to the Androgel 1.62%. Maybe it'll give me a little more... I dunno.

JUST GOT BLOOD RESULTS YESTERDAY. My total testosterone is 453, free is 22. This is three tubes at 9am. MY LIVER ENZYMES are really high. I don't know why and neither does the doctor. I've been taking Advil and Alieve at night for swollen knees from squats. Not sure if that's why it's high. I'm aware that also doesn't mean my liver is fucked. The blood was drawn at 10 am-ish.

As far as the sarms... I have put on muscle, strength has improved. Definitely harder and denser. Slightly more vascular and the pumps and energy during workouts are off the charts. THE BEST PART IS THAT NO PRE Workout NEEDED AND I DONT FEEL CRACKED OUT...AND I CAN WORKOUT FOR HOURS WITHOUT GETTING TIRED!

HOWEVER...I am having side effects.

Hands get numb and burn on and off. MY TEETH FEEL LIKE THEY ARE TINGLING!? I know it sounds crazy but it almost feels like they are growing and pulsing?!

THE WORST IS THE SENSITIVITY TO LIGHT AND MY EYES ADJUSTING FROM LIGHT TO DARK. I get these blind spots, I have to wait for my eyes to adjust in the dark. I HAVE DONE THE 5 days on, 2 OFF OF S4. IVE EVEN GONE 3 days with NO S4. Honestly, I think either the LGD OR THE MK has something to do with this. I haven't been over 50mg of S4. I really only been taking it pre workout, BUT IT DEFINITELY ADDS STRENGTH.

I want to finish out the next 4 weeks but I don't think I can continue with the vision problems. IM IN NEED OF ADVICE PLEASE!!! Thanks!!!


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[Locman12]

Maybe stop the S-4 for a bit to prove to yourself that its the cause of your vision sides. I've never seen anything about any sarms other than s4 causing them. I'm on the super stack and do have vision sides but they have become almost normal for me now. I'm up to 80mgs a day now. It was super tripped out walking through a haunted house last night with s4 vision!!


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[RickRock]

I'm 8 weeks into the super stack. I'm also on 3 tubes of testim 1% gel from Doctor. I'm dosing 12.5 of liquid Aromasin every other day. Also cycle support, various vitamins/ fats /aminos/diet in check.

-I KNOW THE TESTIM GEL SUCKS and THE LONGER ESTER INJECTIONS ARE BETTER. I'm using what's available to me now. The doctor changed the testim 1% to the Androgel 1.62%. Maybe it'll give me a little more... I dunno.

JUST GOT BLOOD RESULTS YESTERDAY. My total testosterone is 453, free is 22. This is three tubes at 9am. MY LIVER ENZYMES are really high. I don't know why and neither does the doctor. I've been taking Advil and Alieve at night for swollen knees from squats. Not sure if that's why it's high. I'm aware that also doesn't mean my liver is fucked. The blood was drawn at 10 am-ish.

As far as the sarms... I have put on muscle, strength has improved. Definitely harder and denser. Slightly more vascular and the pumps and energy during workouts are off the charts. THE BEST PART IS THAT NO PRE Workout NEEDED AND I DONT FEEL CRACKED OUT...AND I CAN WORKOUT FOR HOURS WITHOUT GETTING TIRED!

HOWEVER...I am having side effects.

Hands get numb and burn on and off. MY TEETH FEEL LIKE THEY ARE TINGLING!? I know it sounds crazy but it almost feels like they are growing and pulsing?!

THE WORST IS THE SENSITIVITY TO LIGHT AND MY EYES ADJUSTING FROM LIGHT TO DARK. I get these blind spots, I have to wait for my eyes to adjust in the dark. I HAVE DONE THE 5 days on, 2 OFF OF S4. IVE EVEN GONE 3 days with NO S4. Honestly, I think either the LGD OR THE MK has something to do with this. I haven't been over 50mg of S4. I really only been taking it pre workout, BUT IT DEFINITELY ADDS STRENGTH.

I want to finish out the next 4 weeks but I don't think I can continue with the vision problems. IM IN NEED OF ADVICE PLEASE!!! Thanks!!!


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I'm not sure where some of your side effects are coming from because they are not characteristics of sarms. Teeth tingling and hand numbness I really have no explanation for. First I have heard of that, and Sarms do not cause that. Sarms are also not liver toxic so that should not be affecting your values

The only thing affecting vision is S4. Everybody has different sensitivities, and if it's affecting you too much, stick to 5 on, 2off.

 

[21infantry]

listen to rock, you have another underlying issue then the Sarms. Its possible that you may be one of those people who get elevated values after heavy lifting. Its not uncommon for that happen. Remember these values have been established by the average adult in the US. The British NHS has done several research studies on liver values with people who lift heavy, and something like 60% have elevated levels outside the norm after a couple of weeks of not working out they go back into the established norm of the General population. A lot of these substances that give you the values are stored in the joints and muscles, in periods of growth or a anabolic state breakdown and repair is happening at a accelerated rate thus releasing these substances into the blood stream or urine secretion, thus elevated levels.

When I started back lifting after several years of not doing shit my liver values where off the chart, I mean real concerning. I had like 9 blood draws in a month it was crazy. I was so concerned I kind of lost all ambition to work out and bamn after a week of not lifting my values where perfect. this pattern has not changed for me though over time those levels never reached those levels ever again. But if I get my blood drawn within a few days of working out I can expect elevated liver values give it 4 days my values are all within range. Not saying this is your case but a something to think about and maybe worth a shot to see if those values improve.

 

[JL14028]

Thanks guys. I'm not too concerned about the liver numbers. The sarms are working and I really don't wanna stop because I'm FINALLY MAKING GAINS.
I am taking a cycle support with Hawthorne berry /milk thistle and all that good shit. I drink water but I also drink caffeine so it's probably a combo of caffeine, asthma meds, anti inflammatory, and levothyroxine as I am hypothyroid. I read that also may contribute.

Right now I'm only taking mk2866 for the next 3 days as my trainer is coming up with a new diet and program for the next 4 weeks. I have 4 weeks left to make 12 on sarms. I'm going to continue on Wednesday.

As far as post sarms...I know I'm on Trt BUT in going to stop the testosterone and do 5 weeks of clomid, nolva, daa, tribulus type AS I WANNA GIVE MY BODY A REST. My libido sucks on Trt . January I wanna start a new sarms cycle with real test injections. Possibly add mk677 when available.


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[RickRock]

Thanks guys. I'm not too concerned about the liver numbers. The sarms are working and I really don't wanna stop because I'm FINALLY MAKING GAINS.
I am taking a cycle support with Hawthorne berry /milk thistle and all that good shit. I drink water but I also drink caffeine so it's probably a combo of caffeine, asthma meds, anti inflammatory, and levothyroxine as I am hypothyroid. I read that also may contribute.

Right now I'm only taking mk2866 for the next 3 days as my trainer is coming up with a new diet and program for the next 4 weeks. I have 4 weeks left to make 12 on sarms. I'm going to continue on Wednesday.

As far as post sarms...I know I'm on Trt BUT in going to stop the testosterone and do 5 weeks of clomid, nolva, daa, tribulus type AS I WANNA GIVE MY BODY A REST. My libido sucks on Trt . January I wanna start a new sarms cycle with real test injections. Possibly add mk677 when available.


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Test injections would defnitely be superior and would compliment your sarms stack perfectly. You don't want to fuck with them gels. Your libido should be excellent on TRT, and if it's not there is a problem.

 

[JL14028]

Rick....my libido is worse on the Androgel then when I was off for a year! Dylan told me I need a long ester twice a week.

My doctor won't prescribe the shots. Do I need to find a doctor that will?

On the shots...is libido improved?




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[RickRock]

Rick....my libido is worse on the Androgel then when I was off for a year! Dylan told me I need a long ester twice a week.

My doctor won't prescribe the shots. Do I need to find a doctor that will?

On the shots...is libido improved?




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Yes, defnitely find a different doctor if this one won't let you do injections. That gel is for the birds brother. I do Test C injections for TRT, and my libido is through the roof. Always is. It should be if you are in the right range from the right dose. Get you a different doc bro